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07-11-2007, 01:30 AM
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Re: Was I justified or out of line
Well I tell you what Taso, why don't you try a little experiment? The next time you're in a Casino and manage to have the trump Ace to a 4 card flush on board, instead of tabling your hand, just wave the Ace around so a couple of people see it, then toss your hand into the muck. Let me know how that turns out.
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07-11-2007, 03:03 AM
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07-11-2007, 09:03 AM
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Re: Was I justified or out of line
Well, this wasn't exactly a home game. It was more of an underground illegal game with a rake being taken off the tournament entry fee. With $300 on the line, I can see how thing might not have been "just for fun" as most of us are used to playing.
That makes your behavior even more stupid. Now not only are you pissing people off, but you're probably lucky you didn't just get tossed out for going off on the guy. The other people there didn't pay $300 to be berated by your angle-shooting tirades. Your behavior was out of line, no matter what excuse you try to use, you were out of line. I'm sensing you expected to get some confirmation from this thread, like somehow people were going to side with you. That just isn't the case, because most of the guys in this forum know how to conduct themselves with class. If you want a casino experience, play in a casino. If you want an underground game where the rules are going to be a little more relaxed, continue to play in your game if your buddies will have you back.
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07-11-2007, 09:45 AM
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Re: Was I justified or out of line
You should take some of your winnings and but a lot of beer as a peace offering.
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07-11-2007, 01:48 PM
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...then he shoves he's whole stack across the table and storms out in a huff. I went on to win the tourney,... [/ QUOTE ] Did you keep the rest of his chips or were they taken out of play? Funny either way...
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#27
07-11-2007, 02:00 PM
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Re: Was I justified or out of line
If I pay $300 for a tourney I expect everyone to abide the rules!
This is not "just a home game with some buddies" anymore - this is about (a lot of) real money, guys! Calling your opponent nasty names is a no-go, not abiding the rules set is a no-go as well! Especially in a game in which real money is involved, sticking to the rules is key for a peaceful atmosphere. I mean, come on, this is not kindergarden anymore! Behave like adults and stick to the rules - that's what they are made for. If you don't want to stick to the rules set go and play Monopoly where it doesn't hurt someone's wallet! [ QUOTE ] I very MUCH doubt that Bob Ciaffone intended for the first rule to be used to award the pot to the second-best hand. [/ QUOTE ] How do you know? I think, the word choice speaks for itself. There is no evidence for this interpretation of yours in the text - and it's hypothetical, BTW.
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#28
07-11-2007, 03:00 PM
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That just isn't the case, because most of the guys in this forum know how to conduct themselves with class. [/ QUOTE ] And I think that's the primary point here, especially when dealing with illegal gambling. the integrity of your character is everything. in one of the local games here, a player dealt a game of blackjack using his wallet to back the game... he basically busted out owing a player $20. rather than having the house cover it the idiot just walked out. now, nobody will let this guy into any games and some people want to kick his ass. if anything, the punitive amount of the debt is even more insightful of this guys character. can you imagine what he would have done if he owed $1,000? the OP is not a $20 theif but i doubt people want to play against a verbally abusive angle shooter while having to mind the letter of the law 24/7 while drunk or sober. i can understand tournament players being this nitty (since there is no need to retain long term voluntary opponents) but doing this in a private card room is just character suicide.
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#29
07-11-2007, 05:44 PM
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Re: Was I justified or out of line
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[ QUOTE ] I very MUCH doubt that Bob Ciaffone intended for the first rule to be used to award the pot to the second-best hand. [/ QUOTE ] How do you know? I think, the word choice speaks for itself. [/ QUOTE ] How? Because I can use login, perhaps? Why don't you try to put together an argument, matching this rule to the OP's scenario. Then, use that to convince me that Bob Ciaffone would point to the "show both cards" rule mentioned and say "Yes, I want the second-best hand to get the pot because the winner only showed the important card. That's why I wrote the rule" [ QUOTE ] There is no evidence for this interpretation of yours in the text - and it's hypothetical, BTW. [/ QUOTE ] How can it be hypothetical when we're talking about a situation that happened? [ QUOTE ] If I pay $300 for a tourney I expect everyone to abide the rules! This is not "just a home game with some buddies" anymore - this is about (a lot of) real money, guys!" [/ QUOTE ] Okay, so what's your threshold where being a nit on a rule entitles second-best to the pot, here- $150? $100?
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07-11-2007, 05:46 PM
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Re: Was I justified or out of line
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Well I tell you what Taso, why don't you try a little experiment? The next time you're in a Casino and manage to have the trump Ace to a 4 card flush on board, instead of tabling your hand, just wave the Ace around so a couple of people see it, then toss your hand into the muck. Let me know how that turns out. [/ QUOTE ] You sure seem motivated to justify being an ass. Why ask for our approval? If you want to be an ass, be an ass.
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