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Old 07-11-2007, 01:04 PM
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Default Top 2 facing turn minraise, should I lay this down?

Villain is 64/6/.4..generally pretty bad and I've been value betting him all night. When he minraised me I was kind of suspicious but I thought he might be playing a hand like AQ or AK like this.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($23.45)
SB ($6.15)
BB ($15.10)
UTG ($18.95)
Hero ($36.50)
CO ($31.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls $1.

Flop: ($2.85) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.25</font>, UTG calls $2.25.

Turn: ($7.35) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $12</font>, Hero ?.
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 facing turn minraise, should I lay this down?

instashove against such an opponent, esp if you think he could play ak or aq like that, hell he might even have 6h4h. also he might be getting tired of your betting and used the A as a bluff card
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 facing turn minraise, should I lay this down?

Given he's not that aggressive, I think it's probably best just to bet/call turn, and check/call any non spade river. I don't think we can rule out hands like Qs10s and KsQs from his range. I would only shove if I REALLY had a read on him, but since I don't have any prior experience on this guy, I would just try to hopefully get a cheap showdown on a 3 spade board.
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 facing turn minraise, should I lay this down?

his AF is not high because of his insanely high vpip-low pfr, he might be average aggressive postflop.
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 facing turn minraise, should I lay this down?

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Given he's not that aggressive, I think it's probably best just to bet/call turn, and check/call any non spade river.

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He doesn't have that much behind...if I call the turn bet he's got ~3 left and I'm calling the rest off on the river.

It seems like push or fold.
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 facing turn minraise, should I lay this down?

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Given he's not that aggressive, I think it's probably best just to bet/call turn, and check/call any non spade river.

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He doesn't have that much behind...if I call the turn bet he's got ~3 left and I'm calling the rest off on the river.

It seems like push or fold.

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~Sorry, did not see stack sizes, I was assuming 100 BB's from the start lol... now that I see stack sizes, this is an easy push, just like you imagine yourself pushing checks into the bank from this guy [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 facing turn minraise, should I lay this down?

push.. you'd be getting better than 3.5:1 against a very loose opponent.
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