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Old 07-11-2007, 09:00 AM
SNOWBALL SNOWBALL is offline
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Default Live 2/5 AK whiffs flop after pushing out lagtard - huge pot


Full Table. It's Max 200 buyin, but most people have a lot more.

First 3 players fold. Super aggro persian guy who is raising almost every hand makes it 50 (he has about another 300). Another player folds. Old black guy, who is basically an unknown to me calls (he has me covered) and comments "I dunno why I'm calling, but I'm calling."

I have about 720 or so, and make it 200 total with AKo. Everyone folds, except the old black guy ,who calls.

Flop comes T72. Old guy checks. Hero?
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Live 2/5 AK whiffs flop after pushing out lagtard - huge pot

I don't think we're folding out anything that beats us by betting.
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: Live 2/5 AK whiffs flop after pushing out lagtard - huge pot

Push preflop to avoid this
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: Live 2/5 AK whiffs flop after pushing out lagtard - huge pot

Check, and fwiw, I would check this flop with many made hands as well.
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: Live 2/5 AK whiffs flop after pushing out lagtard - huge pot

Bet 250. He is probably level one thinking and won't make a move at you and won't call with anything less than AT/JJ.
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: Live 2/5 AK whiffs flop after pushing out lagtard - huge pot

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Bet 250. He is probably level one thinking and won't make a move at you and won't call with anything less than AT/JJ.


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I have 520 left at this point. If he calls the 250, the pot is 890. My line after he calls is just to c/f every street UI, right? What if he CRs flop all in? I'd be getting 1140-270 on a call. Do I call?

Is pushing the flop a consideration to maybe get him to fold pocket sixes or w/e? When the pot on the flop is almost equal to my stack, I often find myself CONFUSED. Help plz. TY!
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Old 07-11-2007, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: Live 2/5 AK whiffs flop after pushing out lagtard - huge pot

just shove now
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Old 07-12-2007, 01:03 AM
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Default Re: Live 2/5 AK whiffs flop after pushing out lagtard - huge pot

I dunno why I forgot to mention that villain has me covered. OOPS
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Old 07-12-2007, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: Live 2/5 AK whiffs flop after pushing out lagtard - huge pot

i think if you're gonna bet at all here, it should be a shove...doubtful he caught a set, and if he calls with random middle pair still, which he probably has, you still have a decent chance at sucking out. but shoving maximizes your folding equity against his most likely range.
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Old 07-12-2007, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: Live 2/5 AK whiffs flop after pushing out lagtard - huge pot

"I dunno why I'm calling, but I'm calling"
THe speech doesnt suggest a big hand? I wouldnt be surprised if he had kk/qq/aa. Tbh Check behind unless u have a read for weakness, in which case bet around 200-250 imo
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