SLAG = Marginally profitable

[what_it_do_bbq]

are those 9 ppl profitable at all when you played with them?

i'm assuming very few at the micros are using a hud. if more did, then i would think you'd have to slag it up. cuz if a guy is running say 13/x/x and raises UTG, there's like 5 or 6 hands he's doing that with, so you know ur stacking him a lot if ur sooted conn or low pp hits.

so i guess my question is at what level should one expect most opponents to be using huds?

[soah]

loosening up can be profitable against setminers that can't/won't/don't adapt to what you're doing, because you can win so many pots and never have to pay them off... although the real cause of your loosening will be that it's folded to you more often in MP or LP or even in the SB, where your opening ranges should be much wider than what you'd play with someone already in the pot ahead of you

and ofc you can also loosen up against the horrible passive players that never charge you to draw and never get any value from their hands, but will payoff endlessly whenever you hit anything

[tasteofboji]

what does slag stand for exactly? I mean the S -_-;

[jhill3535]

"S" semi
"L" loose
"AG" agressive

Usually = VPIP 20-30, PFR >5 (normally around 9-12), and postflop AF >2

[diebitter]

grunching so sorry if already been said.

SLAG is fine if you are decent postflop (you don't dick about slowplaying monsters or building big pots on turn/river with bluffs, for example). In fact it can be the most profitable way to play, IMO.

You need to get out of nl10 though, it really only works best against reasonable players who tend to be at higher levels, perversely.

[checkmate36]

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You make money in the micros by getting hands and taking the donks to value town not by trying to outplay them.

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This approach has worked well for me at 2NL (12PTBB/100) and 5NL (9PTBB/100) and Im sure it will work well at 10NL and I play a very tight game. If your playing at these stakes you should be able to find a table that is crazy loose with players spewing chips all over the place. I know once I move up my game will eventually have to change but Im fine with that challenge as well.

[Landlord79]

Okay, I just played 3 tables on Bodog as nitty-tight as I could and got down to 20/8/3.4. I don't see how anyone plays any tighter! I was at 25NL and had KK>AA ftw!

[Landlord79]

Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP1 ($25.10)
MP2 ($32.14)
MP3 ($31.10)
CO ($25.50)
Landlord79 ($24.15)
SB ($23.15)
BB ($24.65)
UTG ($22.55)
UTG+1 ($25.90)

Preflop: Landlord79 is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $0.9</font>, MP1 calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Landlord79 raises to $4.6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $3.70, MP1 calls $3.70, MP3 folds.

Flop: ($15.05) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Landlord79 bets $19.55 (All-In)</font>, MP1 folds, UTG+1 calls $19.55.

Turn: ($34.60) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($34.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $34.60

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG+1 has Ah As (one pair, aces).
Landlord79 has Ks Kh (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: Landlord79 wins $34.60. </font>

[xxrod17xx]

I just think you have to start paying attention to whats going on at your table. I dont think you can sit down with some intention of how you are going to play a given session unless you have watched the table a little. There are going to be players to your left that you will want to raise their blinds regardless of your cards (yes, even at 10NL because for most of the better players posting here 10NL has changed 100% since you have played it, if you have ever played it). I have been playing online poker for a number of years now and have been a small small winning player, and I am working on that, but the point is a SLAG game can work at certain nitty set mining type tables because there are a lot. You are going to have your loose calling station type players, but you are also going to have tight nitty type players such as myself. I am usually a nit basically just trying to get value for all my big hands, but I have really noticed the value of knowing your opponents and trying to play accordingly. Saying I am a LAG, SLAG, TAG, NIT whatever is just retarded to me because there are so many other factors about how you are going to play each individual hand that I just don't think anyone should be limiting themselves to one style and always choosing the aggro play or the tight play.

I also dont adhere to this way to play as much as I would like, but the more I think about poker the more I think you have to take other factors into play other than your hand or the style that you think you are.

Thoughts? I just kind of came to this conclusion about poker just now.

btw I play a 15/5/2 game but there are sessions where I am a 9/8/4 or a 20/13/3 because of the table factors...i just think that should come into play more about how you are going to play that hand at that time. I just take poker as a hand by hand thing.

[Renton]

op, first of all 30/12 at full ring isn't slag. It isn't lag. Its just donkey. Almost no good players play that loose at full ring.

Slag preflop stats are like 18/13 or something close to that. If your vpip is over 25 at a 9 handed table, you are almost certainly too loose.