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Old 07-10-2007, 05:57 PM
IcarusJam IcarusJam is offline
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VPIP= Volume Put in Pot, i'm currently at a table iwth players who literally play every flop but are profiting. I'm scared to cbet my whiffed AK into 5 people...solutions or adaptations for this scenario would be great...I'm limping more pots and slowplaying bigger hands, is this a good solution to these loose players?

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Old 07-10-2007, 06:11 PM
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You shouldn't be continuation betting your whiffed AK into 5 people. The simple truth in poker is that the more opponents you have, the less likely it is that a bluff will work; against 5 opponents, it's rarely if ever going to (and when they do all fold, you probably had the best hand anyway).

Limping big hands & slowplaying is the worst strategy against these kind of players, except maybe for blindly raising & reraising every hand in the hopes that they'll finally fold. They're going to call no matter what you do, so raise your strong starting hands & be prepared to fold them postflop when the board & action warrants it. Fastplay your flopped monsters, because again they're going to call regardless. If you're playing NL, tend to overbet the pot when you've got a hand because they'll call anyway with any piece of the board.

Remember that the key to winning poker is to permit your opponents to make as many mistakes as possible, and to allow them to make the biggest mistakes they're willing to make. The biggest & most frequent mistake that a calling station makes is calling, so when you've got a strong hand be sure to give him the opportunity to call off as many chips as you believe he's willing to. When you're drawing against them after the flop, let them make the mistake of allowing you to draw for free. It truly is that simple.
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Old 07-10-2007, 06:21 PM
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it just sucks whiffing when they open shove 500BB
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Old 07-10-2007, 06:21 PM
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and thanks
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Old 07-10-2007, 06:36 PM
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it just sucks whiffing when they open shove 500BB

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Every time they do that and you fold, they win whatever amount you raised preflop from you. The one time they do that and you did flop the nuts (or close enough to it), you win 500BB from them. That's pretty simple math. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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