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Old 07-10-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default 3/6 KQs 4way action with TPGK and good draws , might be standard...

Boss site, dont have any converter (anyone got a boss converter?)

5handed, Im new at the table with no reads

Preflop: UTG limps, I raise KQ of clubs in the CO, Button 3bets, BB calls, UTG calls, I call

Flop: QJ9 2 diamonds 1 club

BB donks, UTG calls, I call(?), Button calls

Turn: 6 of clubs, giving me a flushdraw

BB bets, UTG calls, I raise, Button folds, BB calls, UTG calls

I figure that there is a pretty big chance I have the best hand and if I dont I have a bunch of outs at least

River: 2 of diamonds, making a flush possible

BB checks, UTG checks, I bet, BB calls, UTG folds

Thoughts on all streets are welcomed
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 KQs 4way action with TPGK and good draws , might be standard...

it all looks pretty standard--what was the part you were worried about?
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 KQs 4way action with TPGK and good draws , might be standard...

preflops standard

it seems ok, folding out AK behind u is kinda nice as it has 3 A outs (2 possibly on the turn if he doesnt have the Ac) and 3 (4 on the flop) T outs in a now large pot (and seems like a likely hand for BTN), not sure if we should try to fold that out on the flop tho. just calling the flop and turn could be fine as well tho? not sure.

rivers a standard bet fold as played I think even if BB did show up with 2 pair QJ Q9 J9.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 KQs 4way action with TPGK and good draws , might be standard...

I think I like how you played all streets. On the flop I'm thinking of raising for value but I think that this may be one of those hands where the turn is going to drastically change your equity so I think waiting for the turn to re-evaluate is probably best.

My thinking on the turn is the same as yours. On the river, I don't like the diamond but I think this is a decent value bet. If the card were a little scarier, like Ace of diamonds or a T then I check it thru.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 KQs 4way action with TPGK and good draws , might be standard...

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it all looks pretty standard--what was the part you were worried about?

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im guessing whether he should raise the flop and then when he doesnt if he should raise the turn (how about if he doesnt pick up a bdfd?) and bet the river UI on a flush card.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 KQs 4way action with TPGK and good draws , might be standard...

Never, mind what I said about a T as know we got a strt. That was me misreading.
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Old 07-10-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 KQs 4way action with TPGK and good draws , might be standard...

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it all looks pretty standard--what was the part you were worried about?

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im guessing whether he should raise the flop and then when he doesnt if he should raise the turn (how about if he doesnt pick up a bdfd?) and bet the river UI on a flush card.

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You don't have the best hand enough to raise the flop.

Your equity shoots up when the turn is a blank card giving you a flush draw and since its multiway raising can't be bad.

The river is close but you will almost never be bluffraised here so its fine.
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Old 07-10-2007, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 KQs 4way action with TPGK and good draws , might be standard...

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You don't have the best hand enough to raise the flop.



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Really, I don't think you should raise either but I think we often have the best hand here. It just seems to me a donk here is much more often a draw or a pair with a draw than a made hand. If the turn doesn't improve our hand with a draw or better do you still not raise?
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Old 07-10-2007, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 KQs 4way action with TPGK and good draws , might be standard...

If the turn is an of suit 2 do we go into calldown mode then?
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