NL50 playing aces for max value

[Slomo]

Wich site are u playing? I want that site also..

[relativity_x]

full tilt and stars has them all alike.

[Slomo]

hmmz if you think JJ is going broke here its a bad line but i think panic thinks JJ is folding here on the turn or river with a normal line [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Chomp]

I think OP significantly reduced the chances of stacking villain here by the way he played it.

Any heart kills your action and any T/J/Q/K/A severely limits your action. That's approaching half the deck. And of course we have the protection issue (although this is meh in this hand I suppose).

I just bet this flop. And a 33/11 with JJ is most assuredly going broke here. *

I think this hand is FPS.

Just IMO.



Edit *: "most assuredly" is too strong actually. "Very often" might be better.

[thac]

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I think OP significantly reduced the chances of stacking villain here by the way he played it.

Any heart kills your action and any T/J/Q/K/A severely limits your action. That's approaching half the deck. And of course we have the protection issue (although this is meh in this hand I suppose).

I just bet this flop. And a 33/11 with JJ is most assuredly going broke here. *

I think this hand is FPS.

Just IMO.



Edit *: "most assuredly" is too strong actually. "Very often" might be better.

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I agree wholeheartedly. I hate this play. Just bet flop, and check/raise turn. All pairs are gonna float and most of them will bet the turn when you check to them and by then they'll feel committed to calling a shove anyways. I really hate the way you played this.

[chris216]

The thing is, I don't see how you can raise the river for value when you check behind on the flop. What kind of hand could he call a river raise with that he would not call on the flop with? Do you think he will call a river raise with middle pair? Unless you like to raise people's river bets as a bluff often, this line looks maybe even more dangerous than just the standard line because it is so wierd.

[AroundTheHorn]

this will only work against a bad player. when you call the turn then raise the river after 3betting PF, the only hand he beats is a bluff. villian played this very poorly, which is why i think it worked, not because it was a good play

i think you have to bet the flop, if nothing else, just to protect your image and allow you to win hands on the flop when you 3bet light PF and don't hit

[Rythm]

You're losing so much value here vs JJ+ that I have an extremely hard time seeing how gaining a little when he has hands closer to the bottom of his range will come even close to making up for it. So many people will be getting it in with any overpair, and a lot of them will at least call a flop bet with 88/99. If you bet about $10 on the flop it will be easy to get your whole stack in by the river, and most villains will have a hard time folding JJ+ if you just keep betting.

Edit: Playing for max value here=playing to double up.

[danny8]

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Wich site are u playing? I want that site also..

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i'd be very suprised if a 31/11/2 villin folds JJ here... nothing suggests hes a particularly good player, you're giving him too much credit if you think he folds overpairs

[Shizzle12345]

lol at the micro's this is spew. If u want to extract more value out of them postflop u can call if ur in position. I tried that a couple times and they stacked of more easily. But u can only do that against players who go allin more easily post flop, u trap them by not showing much strenght preflop.