Fold Pocket Queens?!

[Bowlboy]

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In a 4 handed game, I fold QQ preflop exactly 0 times out of a million.

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And people call a 100BB AI w JJ-TT AK often enough to make this profitable? I think this is a leak, there is no way that this is better than a coinflip long term. Anyway, I call the RR and fold flop.

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Nowhere did I say go all in. I just said don't fold. Reading comprehension FTW.

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Ya but by not folding QQ preflop and calling a 4bet, you're pretty much committing yourself to the pot if no A or K flops.

[jack21221]

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In a 4 handed game, I fold QQ preflop exactly 0 times out of a million.

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And people call a 100BB AI w JJ-TT AK often enough to make this profitable? I think this is a leak, there is no way that this is better than a coinflip long term. Anyway, I call the RR and fold flop.

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Nowhere did I say go all in. I just said don't fold. Reading comprehension FTW.

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Ya but by not folding QQ preflop and calling a 4bet, you're pretty much committing yourself to the pot if no A or K flops.

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You're calling a 3bet, not a 4bet. If no A or K flops, you'd have to be braindead to not want to play the hand with an overpair while playing 4handed.

[Jaap]

I think you can laydown queens easily here. You have to fold to the 4-bet. Why:
* You can't call his raise for set value (not deep enough)
* I think his 4-betting range is like (AK, KK, AA, QQ) so you're at best in a coinflip situation.
* If you consider JJ in his 4-bet range you're still behind on his range.

Only when its a really madly raising donk you can consider calling the 4-bet, and shoving on a flop without overcards. I think therefore this is spew.

[jack21221]

Sorry, it is a 4bet, not a 3bet, misread.

Either way, I'd include a lot more in the range when playing 3 handed.

On the other hand, I could be wrong since I rarely play 3 handed.

[Ikaika]

At 10NL I don't think you're going to see people adjusting their play to table conditions a whole hell of a lot...at least I never saw it.

[iwa]

The villians range at 10nl is going to be at the tightest JJ+ ak+ which you have ~50% equity against. You have to call with odds alone, and if you add more hands to that range you have it dominted.

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In a 4 handed game, I fold QQ preflop exactly 0 times out of a million. Though, I probably just call the 3 bet to see the flop, and if there's no A or K there, then I push.

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[Heine]

Maybe 10nl has changed, but that play is fine. Especially if he's a little looser (i.e. a read would be nice). Then again, my last 2k at 10NL I was a loser (-0.5ptbb/100) or so. I'd strangle myself if i had to rebuild my roll at 10nl again.

FWIW, i think you played it fine. A little higher EV is calling his 3bet and getting it in on a none A or K high flop.