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Old 07-08-2007, 06:49 PM
BigBadBabar BigBadBabar is offline
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Default turn spot, top two - raisy daisy?

hi guys, no read on villain, he's new to my db
my image is tag fwiw

does your play change if he is in bb?

Limited Hold Them $1/$2
10 players
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Pre-flop: (10 players) hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
7 folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5SB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB caps</font>, hero calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, hero ?
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Old 07-08-2007, 06:54 PM
Nogatsira Nogatsira is offline
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Default Re: turn spot, top two - raisy daisy?

I think you should raise, his only likely holding that beats you is QT since kings jacks or 9s would have been a reraise (well, hard to tell without a read though).

I'd put him on K9 or J9 or a suited ace.
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: turn spot, top two - raisy daisy?

i'm definitely not folding in this spot, but i think you were too aggressive. since u got no read on him, QT is just as likely of a hand as AK, or some other straight/flush draw.

after the flop re-raises (if not after the 2nd re-raise) it's best to just smooth call the rest of the way
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: turn spot, top two - raisy daisy?

I would just call down from there UI. I don't think it really matters if he is in SB or BB unless you have a read that the range is noticably different between the two. (ie villain would never play QT from the SB, but might from the BB)
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:02 PM
RemyXO RemyXO is offline
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Default Re: turn spot, top two - raisy daisy?

BBB, why are you choosing a title that's influencing decision making? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I vote raisy-daisy. Since it's a steal situation and he's unknown, I'm not ready to give him credit for a set or str8 and slow down. If he 3-bets, I call down.

Just calling the turn is too weak-tight. 2P is a monster HU.

Actually, I call the 3-bet, wait till J falls on the river and pop him g000000000000000t [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: turn spot, top two - raisy daisy?

considering how aggro online games apparently are, i 3 bet.

i would never do this live, fwiw. id just call down.
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: turn spot, top two - raisy daisy?

I'm raising. Flopping top 2 pair heads-up is huge. If he 3-bets my turn raise, then I think I slow down at that point as he probably has a set or straight. But I'm not quite ready to slow down yet. He could be one of those guys who just spews and goes insane when he thinks his blind is being stolen.
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:08 PM
that_guy_33 that_guy_33 is offline
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Default Re: turn spot, top two - raisy daisy?

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I'm raising. Flopping top 2 pair heads-up is huge. If he 3-bets my turn raise, then I think I slow down at that point as he probably has a set or straight. But I'm not quite ready to slow down yet. He could be one of those guys who just spews and goes insane when he thinks his blind is being stolen.

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He could be a lot of things. But as of now villain is unknown, so we should be playing him as an unknown until we get a better read.
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: turn spot, top two - raisy daisy?

lol i'm sorry but i think its a terrible mistake to treat an unknown who shows hyper-aggression as a bluffer
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: turn spot, top two - raisy daisy?

Nobody says he's a bluffer ... He can be showing the same hyperaggression with plenty of reasonable hands that we are beating.
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