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Old 07-08-2007, 12:05 PM
JorgeG17 JorgeG17 is offline
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Default Yet another overs hand

I spent some time reading the overcards compilation recently linked in an overcards thread. After looking through it a bit, I'm not convinced I made the right move on the turn. Comments on all streets welcome.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.02.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (14.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

<font color="blue"> This seems like the ideal flop for playing overs with the possible exception of the two [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]s. </font>

Turn: (9.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero???
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Old 07-08-2007, 12:15 PM
CruciaX CruciaX is offline
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Default Re: Yet another overs hand

I dont really like cold calling with this hand pre.

As played, i would probably fold the turn, IMHO, the odds are close, but i dont think very many of your outs are clean.
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Old 07-08-2007, 12:30 PM
TarHeel100 TarHeel100 is offline
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Default Re: Yet another overs hand

Turn looks like a clear fold to me. Considering all of the preflop action and the 2 flush and straight possibilities on the board, you have 3 outs in a best case scenario. You're only getting 9:1 on the turn and you still have a player left to act behind you.
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Old 07-08-2007, 12:36 PM
JerBear77 JerBear77 is offline
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Default Re: Yet another overs hand

*grunch*.

Fold Preflop, you don't have enough in there to call this cold and the hand is too weak to raise it. If there were another cold caller in there before you then i would call, maybe even raise it if i felt i could outplay the other guys.

Problem here is you have plenty of odds to call the UI overs, but I would have not gotten involved to begin with. Even if you hit your K, do you really feel confident with your T kicker?
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Old 07-08-2007, 02:01 PM
JJack JJack is offline
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Default Re: Yet another overs hand

I would fold at flop even with so big pot cus you have weak overcards/kickers and PF 3 bettor still is behind you and he can raise and then pot odds arent enought.

I dont like cold call PF at middle position.
I would call this probably at late possition with 3 players at game.
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Old 07-08-2007, 02:14 PM
BigBadBabar BigBadBabar is offline
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Default Re: Yet another overs hand

fold preflop
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Old 07-08-2007, 02:35 PM
calidris calidris is offline
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Default Re: Yet another overs hand

*grunch*
I fold this PF. EP raise and someone else who likes his hand enough to cold call. It is reraised behind you and you're in over your head with a pretty weak holding

On the flop, mehh. What are you drawing to? I know the pot is big and all but you have K high and lots of people seems to like their holdings PF. Even if you catch a K or T you loose too often for it to be worth it. There will be more big pots to pursue, preferably ones with a club in them.
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Old 07-08-2007, 02:45 PM
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I would fold that preflop.
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Old 07-08-2007, 03:28 PM
Teddy_FBI Teddy_FBI is offline
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Default Re: Yet another overs hand

poker hands that seems soo fake unreal.
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Old 07-08-2007, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Yet another overs hand

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Fold preflop. Domination all over.
Fold flop. No draws except for two overs. Still threat of domination.
Fold turn.
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