K9 on QQK flop

[Aaron W.]

[ QUOTE ]
I dunno ... I am viewing it as more of an informational raise than protection raise. I'd rather find out where I stand on the cheap street than having to do it on later ones.

[/ QUOTE ]

Suppose a villain coldcalls. Which does he hold?

a) A flush draw
b) An open-ended straight draw
c) A weak K
d) Qx

[NIX]

Flush draw really isn't an option Aaron, but I agree with your thinking.

[Aaron W.]

[ QUOTE ]
Flush draw really isn't an option Aaron, but I agree with your thinking.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hehehe... ooops... misread the board... I mean... that was there to throw you off [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[RemyXO]

You chose the toughest play, didn't ya? Why couldn't everyone just fold?

Flush draw is out. It's a ragged board.
OESD would be correct to cold-call, it's possible.
Weak K and Qx would cold-call, although I can argue that Kx would be wise to fold to 2 bets here.

At any rate, we can't know what it is. But it sets us up for the next street. If the turn is a blank, we fire and get raised, we can fold. If the turn is bad, we can check-fold.

What if you call and get 3 callers? A raise behind?

This hand from the get-go is a lose-lose situation. The question is how to lose less and not fold the best hand.

[calidris]

Thanx all for the responses.
I was "stoving" the hand with some "reasonable" holdings. Maybe I put UTG+1 hand to narrow but I basically put SSHE limp range in EP here.

Pokerstove: 6,921,506 games

Board: Qc Qh Ks

Hero: 34.117% { Kc9s }
UTG+1: 28.848% { 99-77, ATs, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, AJo, KQo }
Poster: 09.650% { random }
Button: 15.400% { 99-22, AJs-A2s, KJs-K9s, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, 97s+, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s, AJo-ATo, KJo-KTo, QJo, JTo }
SB: { 99-22, ATs-A2s, KJs-K2s, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, AJo-A7o, KJo-KTo, QTo+, JTo }

Continuation of hand was:
Flop: (5 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero ?

Now what? b/f, c/c, c/f?

[marchron]

Too many callers. Check and see.

[KaatzMeow]

[ QUOTE ]


[/ QUOTE ]

Beginner question [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

If it were a raised pot PF, then I guess the pot odds would be better to continue on whether it was a raise or call but wouldn't it also mean that there would be a lot bigger chance that bigger hands are out there and even more dangerous to our hand which would cost of a lot to get to the river.