Foxwoods $1/$2 NL seat charge

[Mano]

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Time charges/time pots are not that bad lol. Especially if you're a tight player, a time pot is incredibly +EV - you can go an entire 5-6 hour session without paying the house anything by picking your spots.

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Other way around. Tight players are at a relative disadvantage to loose players in time charge games and have a relative advantage in raked games. If you had a $5/30min time charge vs a $4max rake and you are a tight player who wins about one pot every half hour, then you are paying more to the house in a timed game.

I don't think timed vs raked games is enough to swing any game from profitable vs unprofitable, however.

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I think he was talking specifically about tables that use a "time pot", where the time for the entire table is taken out of the first pot > X$ after the dealers down. The nits can then play uber-tight in these pots and not be the one paying the time.

[Diamond Lie]

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Ahh i thought it was per player...Is it 10 per table or just 2 dollars a person per hour ?

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$5 time charge each time there is a dealer push (1/2 hour). I don't know where this other guy got his numbers of $2 per down = $10 per hour.

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I played there the other day, live NL first time ever. They hoze you a little bit on the time charge too, a couple guys pointed it out. Some of the dealers were rotating every 20 to 25 minutes rather than every 30 minutes so they were getting more than $10 per person per hour.

I couldn't believe the play though hahaaa It took me a couple hours to figure out the players were calling with nothing on flop and turn, not trying to bluff later or anything, just on a pair draw haha

I also didn't get the smallish bets for a few hours. I thought players were betting small when checked to after a draw completing card hit b/c they hit the draw and were trying to entice callers but half the time I think they were just betting with nothing or tp no kicker and no plan or conception of pot odds or how to read the board hahaaa

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haha they're so tricky. also, there is no such thing as pot odds at 1/2 at foxwoods (or any other casino prob lol). pot is 6 dollars on the flop? lets lead out for 16 dollars.... good luck trying to figure out whats going on lol

[Diana Ross Fan]

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haha they're so tricky. also, there is no such thing as pot odds at 1/2 at foxwoods (or any other casino prob lol). pot is 6 dollars on the flop? lets lead out for 16 dollars.... good luck trying to figure out whats going on lol

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Yeah, I don't get nlhe either. Would someone explain to me why I would bet 15$ to win 3$ before the flop.

[SellingtheDrama]

Not to convert this into a strat forum but you aren't raising to win the blinds - you're raising to build a nice pot to win later on.

And yes I was referring to time pot situations for being optimal - I generally play time pot games and I'd say I average paying about 55-60% of my share.

[bkholdem]

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haha they're so tricky. also, there is no such thing as pot odds at 1/2 at foxwoods (or any other casino prob lol). pot is 6 dollars on the flop? lets lead out for 16 dollars.... good luck trying to figure out whats going on lol

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Yeah, I don't get nlhe either. Would someone explain to me why I would bet 15$ to win 3$ before the flop.

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Someone pointed this out to me on 2p2 a couple years ago when I was contemplating playing live (didn't until this week): He was talking about the big overbets and the like. He said that he would bet out $15 like the others were doing just so they would not catch on to the the very concept of the relationship between your bet and the pot size. Everyone is opining a $3 pot for $15? I'm either folding, checkraising, or opening the damn pot for $15 just so I do not trigger any thoughts in the other players about the relationship between my bets and the pot, etc.

It's also interesting playing with people who have no conception of position. I"m going tomorrow and I just might buy in short so I can tripple or quadripple up the first 10's+ or AK hand I get by pushing $60 into a pot with 5 $12 limpers hahahaa I wish I had some live experience so I could play bigger but I was shaking like an alzhiemers patient who was high on crack when I had to place all my chips in the pot and break them down to count them after going all in for the first time haha

[Diamond Lie]

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haha they're so tricky. also, there is no such thing as pot odds at 1/2 at foxwoods (or any other casino prob lol). pot is 6 dollars on the flop? lets lead out for 16 dollars.... good luck trying to figure out whats going on lol

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Yeah, I don't get nlhe either. Would someone explain to me why I would bet 15$ to win 3$ before the flop.

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Someone pointed this out to me on 2p2 a couple years ago when I was contemplating playing live (didn't until this week): He was talking about the big overbets and the like. He said that he would bet out $15 like the others were doing just so they would not catch on to the the very concept of the relationship between your bet and the pot size. Everyone is opining a $3 pot for $15? I'm either folding, checkraising, or opening the damn pot for $15 just so I do not trigger any thoughts in the other players about the relationship between my bets and the pot, etc.

It's also interesting playing with people who have no conception of position. I"m going tomorrow and I just might buy in short so I can tripple or quadripple up the first 10's+ or AK hand I get by pushing $60 into a pot with 5 $12 limpers hahahaa I wish I had some live experience so I could play bigger but I was shaking like an alzhiemers patient who was high on crack when I had to place all my chips in the pot and break them down to count them after going all in for the first time haha

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lol. when in rome...

honestly though, nobody pays any attention to that stuff at 1/2 level.
i've only been playing live about three months, but my hands still shake from time to time.

what time are you going tomorrow? im going to be there between 9 and 3 most likely.

[sweetjazz]

FWIW, if a player who doesn't always overbet the pot leads out on the flop for an unusually large amount, it is NEVER because he has the nuts but almost ALWAYS because he has a vulnerable hand that he doesn't want you to draw to. It varies from player to player. If the flop is Ks 9s 4s, a big overbet could be anything as strong as 6s 5s to a hand like Kh 8c.

Also, $10/hour is not a bad time charge. At Harrah's New Orleans, it's $12/hour plus they take $1 out of each pot for the stupid BBJ. Then again, that high price is handsomely made up for by some of the softest competition anywhere.

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Here's why Foxwoods charges $10 an hour for 1-2NL. Its a very slow game. There are NO chip runners at Foxwoods. Most people will NOT buy there chips at the window. The dealer's rack is always empty; there are a lot of fills, which slow up the game. And there are always 2 players per table that have to HOLLYWOOD every hand. They would lose money if they raked.

[Fishhead24]

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Here's why Foxwoods charges $10 an hour for 1-2NL. Its a very slow game. There are NO chip runners at Foxwoods. Most people will NOT buy there chips at the window. The dealer's rack is always empty; there are a lot of fills, which slow up the game. And there are always 2 players per table that have to HOLLYWOOD every hand. They would lose money if they raked.

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YUP, ITS ALL ABOUT THE POKERROOM PROFITING, NOT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE PLAYER.