AA facing big raise live

[SSky06]

1/2 Turningstone Casino. 8 Handed

Hero has 175. Viewed as TAGish. I've been at the table for about 2 hours and have barely played any hands due to the fact that I get K4 every hand. I've showed down one hand which was a set.

Villian has 200ish. Solid player who came over from 1/2, 400 max, to play at our table with his two sons (who are CO and button respectively). He's done nothing out of line and has been playing pretty well. The one hand we've been hooked up in so far he told me the truth about what he had when I was quizing him about his raise.

SB has 400ish. Loose/Weak donk. Been playing for about an hour and it's pretty clear he doesn't know what he's doing at all. Calling big raises with K6os, calling preflop shoves with garbage. He's not drunk, he just is sitting there quietly playing really bad (and coincidentally, he's winning).

Hero dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in MP1

UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero makes it $12 to go, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB/Villian calls.

Pot: $36
Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB checks, BB checks, Hero fires $25, SB folds, BB almost instantly says "let's make it $100." Hero?

[karlwig]

hmm... so after his raise to 100, you have like 140-ish left right? one things for sure... if you're gonna play, theres no point in calling to see another card IMO... you'd spend that anyway. so i'd just go all-in. of course i would have to think about what hands he'd raise first, but unless i had spesific reads that he'd only raise the very top hands and not playing very aggressive otherwise, i'd just stick it in there.

[CazicT]

So that is pretty much your whole stack right? He was the "solid" one right? I don't know if he was that solid and had a set or something he wouldn't be pushing so hard IMO. I mean a raise is one thing but a 2 X pot sized raise is just strange.

I think i'd completely go with my physical read of the situation here. He bet almost immediately which says "bluff" to me. I mean if he's sitting there with KK or 99 or something wouldn't he hollywood for at least a few seconds?? Did he seem truly relaxed or was he just sitting there stiff as a board or maybe "trying" to look relaxed?

I think i'm more scared of a random K9 or something than a set for some reason though.

[Jay.Yang]

I fold.

The thing is, if you call you are pretty much pot committed. So if you are thinking of calling, might as well just re-raise all-in and expect him to call you. And board like this there are not much draw opportunities (unless OESD with 87). I think it's a made hand (2pair or better) most of the time in this situation.

[effang]

this is live. AA is the nuts. for less than 100 bb i would never fold AA

[Bianculli]

Seems like based on your information that you should try quizzing him about his hand since he was helpful before. In absence of any other information you pick up on from him, I would do whatever you think is more likely to get all the money in the pot (push or call). Why would he raise like that if he hit a set? Two pair seems unlikely but not impossible. Looks more like ak or kq or who knows in a live game, but I can't fold this for these stack sizes.

[hamburgerHELMUTh]

This raise means one of two things in my experience.
-he has a hand that beats aces and wants to stack you
-he has a king (AK, KQ usually) and thinks its the nuts (ie overaggressive donk)

Just decide which one is the case, and act accordingly.

[Javanewt]

I think you are beaten. If he is as solid as you say, I doubt he would have check/raised with just a K. He hit his hand, knew you would c-bet, and now he wants the pot.

However, if you've been c-betting every raise and have folded to pressure, maybe he's making a play or thinks his K is good. If he sees you as TAG, this is doubtful.

I agree that you have two choices, though, fold or push.

In this situation, do what your gut tells you.

[LadyWrestler]

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1/2 Turningstone Casino. 8 Handed

Hero has 175. Viewed as TAGish. I've been at the table for about 2 hours and have barely played any hands due to the fact that I get K4 every hand. I've showed down one hand which was a set.

Villian has 200ish. Solid player who came over from 1/2, 400 max, to play at our table with his two sons (who are CO and button respectively). He's done nothing out of line and has been playing pretty well. The one hand we've been hooked up in so far he told me the truth about what he had when I was quizing him about his raise.

SB has 400ish. Loose/Weak donk. Been playing for about an hour and it's pretty clear he doesn't know what he's doing at all. Calling big raises with K6os, calling preflop shoves with garbage. He's not drunk, he just is sitting there quietly playing really bad (and coincidentally, he's winning).

Hero dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in MP1

UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero makes it $12 to go, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB/Villian calls.

Pot: $36
Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB checks, BB checks, Hero fires $25, SB folds, BB almost instantly says "let's make it $100." Hero?

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You said he is solid and views you as a TAG. You raised 6 BB preflop and he called. Based on that, it looked like he had AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AKs, AQs, KQs, or AKo at that point...with AQo also a slight possibility.

After the K flopped, you bet about two thirds pot. He went over top of you to about 2 times the pot. That limits his solid play to AA, KK, AKs, KQs, and AKo. There is also a slight chance he sensed weakness in your flop bet and is bluffing. You have 2 of the aces. You are afraid of only KK at that point.

If I did my quick math right, you are about a 2 to 1 favorite over the normal range he would do this with. I would shove.

[Christian_Peters]

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1/2 Turningstone Casino. 8 Handed

Hero has 175. Viewed as TAGish. I've been at the table for about 2 hours and have barely played any hands due to the fact that I get K4 every hand. I've showed down one hand which was a set.

Villian has 200ish. Solid player who came over from 1/2, 400 max, to play at our table with his two sons (who are CO and button respectively). He's done nothing out of line and has been playing pretty well. The one hand we've been hooked up in so far he told me the truth about what he had when I was quizing him about his raise.

SB has 400ish. Loose/Weak donk. Been playing for about an hour and it's pretty clear he doesn't know what he's doing at all. Calling big raises with K6os, calling preflop shoves with garbage. He's not drunk, he just is sitting there quietly playing really bad (and coincidentally, he's winning).

Hero dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in MP1

UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero makes it $12 to go, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB/Villian calls.

Pot: $36
Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB checks, BB checks, Hero fires $25, SB folds, BB almost instantly says "let's make it $100." Hero?

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You said he is solid and views you as a TAG. You raised 6 BB preflop and he called. Based on that, it looked like he had AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AKs, AQs, KQs, or AKo at that point...with AQo also a slight possibility.

After the K flopped, you bet about two thirds pot. He went over top of you to about 2 times the pot. That limits his solid play to AA, KK, AKs, KQs, and AKo. There is also a slight chance he sensed weakness in your flop bet and is bluffing. You have 2 of the aces. You are afraid of only KK at that point.

If I did my quick math right, you are about a 2 to 1 favorite over the normal range he would do this with. I would shove.

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Why are 66 or 99 not also in that range?