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Maybe you disagree but 90% of the time I call here its Q10
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Maybe you disagree but 90% of the time I call here its Q10 [/ QUOTE ] i totally agree. obviously i'm not at all surprised everyone thinks it's a terrible fold though. i'd crying call and get ready to reload. a bluff jim? come on, no way. |
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fold...jim he is NEVER bluffing here....are you joking? he has to be just as scared of QT
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] very early in the match [/ QUOTE ] Your reads are not good, yet. This could even be a bluff [/ QUOTE ] This is a pretty crazy line to take with a bluff, ive shown a lot of strength. [/ QUOTE ] but you folded! |
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i like the fold. given action, i do not think 3:1 is enough.
edit: early on in a match, i think this is way less likely to be a bluff jim. and given flop check and turn c/c, its obvious whatever made hand he has is contingent on the river A. i doubt he is b3b shoving a crappy aces up on the river when he did not try to build the pot anywhere else. if we are assuming he is competent, he has to realize that we could very well have QT here. assigning him a wide bluffing range or river b3b vbetting range doesnt make too much sense. so i think its a sick spot, but i also think this is a very good fold. edit2: he also c/ced turn and potted river and then 3bet. cmon jim.. |
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Call obv.. sick prize & no foldo el sets
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There is a line in H o H vol 2 that talks about people folding trips in a situation like this. I think he said, "everytime someone tells me about.blah blah..I think to myself...idiot."
Thats just a joke, there. If he's got you beat, so be it. I call |
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you got set
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its obvious whatever made hand he has is contingent on the river A [/ QUOTE ] Agreed, but I just don't see why we are ruling out As up. [ QUOTE ] assigning him a wide bluffing range or river b3b vbetting range doesnt make too much sense. [/ QUOTE ] Getting 3:1 on a call, his range doesn't need to be very wide to make a call correct. There are 16 combos of QT, so we only need 6 combos of hands we beat to justify a call. The combos of AJ/A8 alone are enough to make the call better than breakeven, not to mention that his line up to the river is entirely consistent with these hands, while QT is likely to take a different line on the turn. Granted, this ignores the possibility of a slowplayed 9T, but it also ignores the similarly unlikely possibility of a slowplayed set, or a bluff. |
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