100nl---Please help me review my 3 toughest hands of the day

LuckySal · #1 07-05-2007, 05:07 PM

hand 1) villain = 23/10/4.67

i've already folded a weakish made hand in the exact same situation.

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SB ($96.68)
BB ($393.94)
Hero ($100)
MP ($84.68)
Button ($136.71)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, Button calls $4, 2 folds.

Flop: ($9.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $6.5, Button calls $6.50.

Turn: ($22.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $14, Button raises to $51, hero FOLDS or SHOVES

i hate calling here, so which one is best shoving or putting him on KQ, AT KJ 22 and folding

hand 2)villain = 39.8/17.2/2.27
I saw him shoving with KK on a A-high flop, (and strangly getting called by QQ >>> lol)

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UTG ($98.50)
MP ($318.94)
Hero ($107.83)
Button ($0)
SB ($96.58)
BB ($21.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, MP calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP bets $4, Hero raises to $12, MP raises to $29, Hero calls $17.( if we fold this we get run over allot right???) in Retrospective 4-betting here was the best ????

Turn: ($69.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP bets $32, Hero calls $32. (is this spewing)

River: ($133.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP bets $20, Hero calls $20 ????.(hmmm getting 7.5 to 1)

can this ever be profitable in the long term

(i didnt say i called the river, but should we call; getting 7.5 to 1)

hand 3)
villain = 31.6/23.6/4

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BB ($95.90)
UTG ($99.88)
Hero ($98.52)
CO ($19.46)
Button ($110.58)
SB ($99.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, Button raises to $10, 2 folds, Hero calls $6.

Flop: ($21.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($21.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $9, Hero calls $9.

River: ($39.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $27, Hero ??????

Imrahil · #2 07-05-2007, 05:11 PM

Hand 1 I fold as played.

Exar_Kun · #3 07-05-2007, 05:30 PM

Hand 1:

Even with five players Im folding this hand pf. As played I think I fold the turn. He has decent stats and I cant just seem him making a raise with a draw here.

Hand 2:

I am not sure about 4-betting the flop, I would do it if I think he would call a draw and then I would push a lot of turns.

As played Calling the river is a must against this type of player.

Maybe 4 betting and then pushing most turns is a good way to play this hand.

Hand 3:

I might bet out this flop. We have a hand and need to protect it.

Otherwise I would probably fold river as played.

LuckySal · #4 07-05-2007, 06:42 PM

quick note about hand 1 i forgot to mention:

i was really carddead for a while on that table.
I think i had a vpip of 12 or something, which normal is in the 19 to 22 range

so i thought i could get away with that utg raise.

Austiger · #5 07-05-2007, 07:25 PM

Hand 1 - fold

Hand 2 - you've got an overpair and a gutshot, and you punish his limp-call/donkbet by making him call $8 into $27.50 pot? Make a real raise next time.

Hand 3- What is that $10 button raise? I think I would pop it to $30. As played, I think I call. It's A9 as often as KQ.

hellmuth88 · #6 07-06-2007, 12:38 PM

hand 1
turn bet is weak, i would bet 19/20, than i can fold allot easier after a reraise

hand 2
i would reraise his donkbet allot more
crying call on river is a must, although its likely villain has you beat

hand 3
i would definately 4 bet this preflop, villain seems very LAGish, so you are basically crushing his range + you dont have position.... so 4bet his small reraise to 30ish

river is difficult spot, because you underrepresented your hand the whole way....
its really a read dependent situation, i think i would fold here 65% of the time