Why'd they write a book about Stu Ungar?

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Here's one of stu's last interviews before he died , check out how drugged out he was .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMPBDPYjqEk

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I think the book was good. And I think its highly likely that he was an autist(asperger): photographic memory, lack of social skills etc.

[bustedromo]

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lol @ best player of all time. The guy ran good against small feilds plain and simple. so many internet tourney players today that are much better than him.

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God this is a stupid statement. The stupidity is almost mind-boggling.

When Stuey was on top of the world, the WSOP was nearly all pros, not internet pros, but live poker pros. Present was enormous skill in the following areas :

(1) reading opponents
(2) studying, memorizing, and understanding betting patterns
(3) long-term learning and understanding of players' styles
(4) memorizing specific hands played against many different players over a long period of time and applying this knowledge
(5) understanding psychological makeup and the effects of fear and greed and ego and applying them at the table

You think that running over a large field of donkeys is the more difficult task ? Even without getting into which task is the more difficult, is it even valid to compare internet tourney experts with live tourney experts playing against other expert players ?

In every interview I've ever read regarding Stuey, those who played against him gave his game great respect (when he was on).

Another factor that must be taken into account, Stuey was all about fast money. His mind was so supercharged he became bored far more easily than most anyone. He needed action all the time. This is probably why he wasn't nearly as good at limit as he was at no limit.

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You do realize that there have been books written about Hitler, Dahmer, Bin Laden, and a few other guys worse than Unger.

[The B]

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Here's one of stu's last interviews before he died , check out how drugged out he was .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMPBDPYjqEk

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sick, so sick, praire dog sick...not a rickroll

[bustedromo]

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the guy did nothing to better the world. that's one priority in life. plus he committed adultry over and over... I gaurentee the guy [censored] the US govt over and over by not paying taxes, he was a drug addict, and he bugged tons of people by asking for $$$ and scamming them to buy drugs with it.

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I think your life priorities should be (1) spelling and (2) grammar.

BTW, people who have philanthropy as their #1 life priority typically don't choose to become professional gamblers.

[MrMore]

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lol @ best player of all time. The guy ran good against small feilds plain and simple. so many internet tourney players today that are much better than him.

[/ QUOTE ]I said the best "tournament" player of all time. This isn't even an argument. Those fields he went against? Are you implying that Jaime Gold is better, because he faced more people?

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Stu was the first person who just played like a complete lag. He was a fish in the cash games but it worked in tournaments because no one could adapt against him. This is going on hearsay of course, but a ton of sources say the same thing. Years ago, people did not raise from middle position with nearly the wide range of hands you would do so today. Stu was the first one to really go after the antes and blinds as much as people do today. That's why he was successful. As a straight up NL holdem player he wasn't even near the best.

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He, like Phil H and other tournament junkies, had the psychological makeup that needed the specified goal and bounded play that a tourney provides.
But let me add that in my few casual dealings with Stuey, he was nowhere near being a Tony G/Mouth/Phil H type. He did some talking, but I don't remember him crossing the line like they do.

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the guy was a loser in all faucets of life.

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Word on the street is this is correct, he had a few too many leaks..

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SOLID GOLD BABY

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I just read his book "one of a kind".... after reading it the only way i could describe this guy was LOSER. this guy isn't worthy of no book in his honor. the guy was a loser in all faucets of life. no life control, no BR managment, ect. here's why they wrote the book. HE WAS BROKE AGAIN IN 98 WHEN THEY WERE WRITING IT AND NEEDED MONEY!!!

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Yeah so this one time I read a book about Adolf Hitler's life story and another book about the history of the national socialist party in Germany and after reading them I wondered why anybody would write a book about that stuff, those guys were such mean guys!







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Very dumb.

[Sluss]

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Why do you think that someone who was able to find an optimal strategy, that is used by so many successful players today, would be unable to adjust in a game today (of course assuming he was alive and not so coked up he could make it to day two of tournaments)?

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All the anecdotal evidence I've heard says he wasn't able to adjust his strategy to the live cash games of his time. His LAG style was a one-trick pony. So, why would he be able to adjust to anything today?

Also, it might be giving too much credit to say he found an optimal strategy. It seems his personality drove him to play a certain way and he was lucky to stumble into a poker variant (NLHE tournaments) which rewarded that style.

[/ QUOTE ]You could be right. Of course, he wouldn't be the first or the last player to be a monster in tournaments and a fish in cash games. Also I think fish is a relative term. I'm sure when some big whales came in Stuey made plenty of money off of them.

As KSOT said he was a great rummy player and it seems like he had the ability and card sense to look at a game and develop the best strategy for it.

We will never know for sure. However, it always seems like the people who underate him never got a chance or very few chances to play with him and only heard the many stories. However, people who played with him (Doyle, Chip, Billy Baxter, Bobby Baldwin)all seem to overate him.