60s - 77 on bubble..

braminc · #1 07-05-2007, 04:47 PM

fold or push here? i dont wanna call and see a flop and not know where im at, etc etc. i dont know much about villain but im sure he's opening pretty wide there with his chip stack.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t120/t240
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t7935
hero: t2435
SB: t2385
BB: t745

Pre-flop: (4 players) hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to t480</font>, hero??

Kevin8423 · #2 07-05-2007, 04:48 PM

I'm folding. It seems odd that with his stack he isn't shoving instead of minraising, so not only could that mean he has a monster, you really don't want to get called here. You don't have enough FE to justify shoving.

Cair Paravel · #3 07-05-2007, 04:50 PM

Meh. With BB pretty short and a 10bb stack, I'd fold. No reason to blow up just yet.

Fold>>>>Push>>>>>>&g t;>>>Call.

CmnDwnWrkn · #4 07-05-2007, 04:52 PM

Probably a fold. Has UTG been shoving at all prior to this? If he has, I would be very suspicious of a minraise. He is likely trying to induce a shove from BB. Probably best to stay out, unless you have a read that UTG minraises with very weak cards.

kyro · #5 07-05-2007, 04:54 PM

I fold without much thought. With 0 FE, it's a horrendous push, I think. I can't imagine your FE is that high.

braminc · #6 07-05-2007, 06:08 PM

i folded as well, but i can say that UTG has NOT been shoving at all and is a donk and ended up showing down like QT or something

suzzer99 · #7 07-05-2007, 09:09 PM

I wish you guys would put which site in the thread title. I have no freaking clue what to do at 120/240 blinds. That's just silly. I guess we didn't need to in the PS/PP days since all the buyins were different.

WutRUTryin2Hit · #8 07-05-2007, 09:17 PM

ICM says this is a big fold to a shove from ATC, and judging by stacks and blinds, I don't think you have enough fold equity to ever make this a shove. You'd probably need like I dunno, 80% fold equity or something crazy to make this not a fold.

allhappythoughts · #9 07-05-2007, 09:27 PM

You're sitting in good position in the tourney. If he hasn't been shoving at this point, and just minraising a lot in an effort to take down the pot, then I'd at least consider shoving. But If he calls you with some crap like J9s then it's still a race. Basically the best you could hope for would be an underpair (unlikely) or A5s or something if you shoved, and he's calling most of the time. Add it all up = fold = nh.