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Old 07-05-2007, 10:34 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: 6.50, AK did I play this like a donkey? Me thinks I did.

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AQ=possible AT/KJ/QJ/JT=should not call the pf-raise

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lol ! When was the last time you played a 6.5 ?
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Old 07-05-2007, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: 6.50, AK did I play this like a donkey? Me thinks I did.

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AT/KJ/QJ/JT=should not call the pf-raise



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Isnīt true even in the 16s.
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Old 07-05-2007, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: 6.50, AK did I play this like a donkey? Me thinks I did.

Yes you guys are right they do call raises with hands like that but it's less likely imo, especially to push a raise with (you have to be a true donk)

and there are 4 players in this pot.

i wonder if you would call a hundred times in a situation like this if it would be ev+

Maybe i'm wrong i don't know and what if you know villian is a pretty decent player (sharkscope)?
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: 6.50, AK did I play this like a donkey? Me thinks I did.

at this level an easy call. obv it seems liek a marginal situation but they will play such crazy ranges so fast i think you must put it in. gh
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Old 07-05-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: 6.50, AK did I play this like a donkey? Me thinks I did.

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without a read/notes on villian i would call this 30% of the times.

i don't think the average level at the 6,50s is bad enough to call this.

If someone could explain me why you should call this plz do...

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This makes no sense at all. Readless you will randomly decide to call 30% of the time?? Based on nothing whatsoever you should either be always getting it in because you are ahead often enough to do so (correct) or folding always because you don't think you will be ahead ever (incorrect).

FWIW you seem to be reaaaally overestimating the play of the average 6.50 player.
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Old 07-05-2007, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: 6.50, AK did I play this like a donkey? Me thinks I did.

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AQ=possible AT/KJ/QJ/JT=should not call the pf-raise

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lol ! When was the last time you played a 6.5 ?

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so true
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: 6.50, AK did I play this like a donkey? Me thinks I did.

I'm not a great fan of calling high, straighty looking flops with TPTK and only a gutshot to the nuts this early. IMHO Reckon you'll get shown 2 pair and the lower end of made straights more often than you'll catch your hand.
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:24 PM
j831526 j831526 is offline
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Default Re: 6.50, AK did I play this like a donkey? Me thinks I did.

Why do so many of you think this is a standard call at 6.50? Do a lot of these players shove on a bluff with a coordinated board against a player who's shown strength? Shove is a 2 pair play trying to push out the draws.

If you're behind, and I think you are, you may be drawing dead or to only a 4 outer and a split pot. If you fold the turn, you still have $1,000 which gives you lots of play.

Ok, I'm a wuss. But recently I've been bombing out of SNGs by being stubborn with hands like this and losing [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: 6.50, AK did I play this like a donkey? Me thinks I did.

I think after reading the advice here and studying my play later that this is an instacall. And yes at the 6.50s villains have a LARGE range of hands they could be calling me with. At the time I wasn't sure, but now I think a call is standard and check/calling or check/folding is too weak.
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:04 PM
Crazy Porto Crazy Porto is offline
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Default Re: 6.50, AK did I play this like a donkey? Me thinks I did.

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without a read/notes on villian i would call this 30% of the times.

i don't think the average level at the 6,50s is bad enough to call this.

If someone could explain me why you should call this plz do...

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This makes no sense at all. Readless you will randomly decide to call 30% of the time?? Based on nothing whatsoever you should either be always getting it in because you are ahead often enough to do so (correct) or folding always because you don't think you will be ahead ever (incorrect).

FWIW you seem to be reaaaally overestimating the play of the average 6.50 player.

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well it seems to me like there is no good or right decision here.
pf you will also randomly decide to raise or just call a hand right? (to not give the table a good read on you..)
If you just always make calls like this or always just fold in this situation players can take advantage of this info.
I just see this as balancing my game.
In situations like this i love to go by my feeling in combination with the little info and the table image i have.
I know it's crazy to explain a poker decision by trusting your instinct but some people do very well with this in life.
If you have a 50/50 disicion and no futher info you will make the decision by you gutfeeling right?

if you just call 30% of the time you will also randomly get an update of the gamelevel at the 6,50s so you can adjust to this this by time. (of course you can also achive this by calling everytime but then you have to radically change your game and maybe make the wrong decision because you will now always fold)
this way you keep options open to changes in the game.

overall i would just quickly sharkscope the guy and (if available) make my decision on this info.

and yeah i'm probably overestimating the level of the 6,50 because for all you guy's the seems like an clear call.
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