Getting tossed from a homegame for winning.

[Taso]

If there is someone who comes to my game every time and wins... I don't ask him to leave, I want him to keep coming so I can learn and get better. You should keep playing with these people and winning until they ask you to leave (if they do) and then find another game and do the same. Don't buy them food or any of that, that's bull.

[gwhiz_612]

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If there is someone who comes to my game every time and wins... I don't ask him to leave, I want him to keep coming so I can learn and get better. You should keep playing with these people and winning until they ask you to leave (if they do) and then find another game and do the same. Don't buy them food or any of that, that's bull.

[/ QUOTE ] Exactly right. These other guys are more concerned how my attitude is at the game and missing the point of this thread. There is one guy that is probably the best player in the game who only can play in the winter because he runs a golf course all summer. I would love it when he played because I could learn to get better and also use what I've learned against him. Poker is inherently fun, you don't have to try to make it so. Anyone that is playing something that they have a chance to win even if it is very slight still has some level of enjoyment while playing. I am not being asked to leave from this game yet, but I know a couple of the guys wish I wouldn't come back. That's only because they don't have the desire strong enough to get better and would rather play worse players than better ones. Just for the record, I don't use an ipod, stare down, talk about my game or any of the other stupid stuff mentioned above. We get together, we play, we have fun. Even the guys that are losing are still having a good time. If I was as big of a dick as some here are thinking then I would deserve to be thrown out of the game, just due to the negative element that I would be bringing every week. This is not the case I want to stay a part of this game as long as possible and wouldn't jeopordize it due to something as manageable as that. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[pfapfap]

Okay, so maybe people here are off on their perception, but then why are all of your posts somewhat frustrating to read? Something about you rubs people the wrong way on here, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were true in person, as well. You say you want to maximize your participation in this game, yet you reject suggestions on how to do that. You're putting the responsibility on the other players: they're not approaching the game the same way you do, so it's their fault they don't like you. That's just silly.

[grebe]

Been following this post, but I didnt have much to say about it, as it sounds like you are a much better player than I am...or at least have better nerves to play higher than me (my threshold is $1/2 right now). But you may be overlooking one remedy that seems pretty obvious to me. Maybe you need to just lay out of this game a bit and expand out into some other games. If you dont show for a couple weeks and a couple other guys get the opportunity to win, then you come back to the same guys with a different attitude. Nobody likes to get thumped by the same person over and over, so give the game a break and find a few others to start attending.

Kind of like a trout stream. If you catch a fish or two in one hole, the fish get wary and go down, so it is proper to rest the hole for a bit so the fish will forget all the commotion. So you go up to the next pool and catch a fish or two there. By then, your first spot should be ripe again.

Hope that helps.

[ACPlayer]

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I'm going to agree with NT. You are probably not welcome because you are acting like Mr. Serious Hardcore Poker Man while winning the money. Next time, get really plastered (and I mean totally [censored] obliterated) and then play. This will make things fair and more fun.

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When I first started playing I used to lose everytime I played, I had no idea how to play poker. I would come home and want to never play again because I could never win. So instead of quitting I chose to get better which is what I assume most people come to these forums for. I bought books spent hours studying hand histories and reading these forums. What I'm saying is that I put in work and it has paid off. I'm not acting like mr poker man, especially in front of these guys. I drink at every game and make general conversation, there is always a relaxed atmosphere at this game. Some of you should check out the link to the Frank Wallace book on poker to get a good mindset of a real player.

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NT is usually right. I played full time for many years.

Maybe for you it is work, for THEM it is FUN. They softplay have a ball and trade money back and forth. They dont want some serious nit sitting there siphoning off 20K. Until you understand that you dont really understand poker.

Go play in a casino.

[mce86]

Make a couple bad plays too. Soon, you might not get any action. Make it appear less serious...Caro has some stuff on that...demonstrate you dont care...personally, I hate home games....I wish we played those type of home games...usually ours our 20 dollar tourneys (yawn) and you start with 1080 chips. After 40 minutes, the blinds go from 20-40 to 50-100 to 100-200...there is no poker involved. I usually bitch and complain, get knocked out early, then drive to the casino.

[FortWorthJim]

I've been living off one home game for most of the last two years. It is a private club with a wider player base, but the main 2-5 crowd consists of fewer than 20 players.

We joke, we laugh, we have fun, but we play poker hard and fast. Like OP, I am way more advanced than all but a couple players in the game, but I am also one of the most well-liked players in the game.

Why? I never gloat when I win, I don't whine when I lose, and I never, ever berate one of them for making a bad play against me.

I have a self-deprecating humor. I make fun of myself about a bad call or a bluff gone bad. There has been plenty of poker literature on this. Read the relevant sections of "Ace On the River". Greenstein says something about, "I like to gamble with nice people who can afford to lose to me."

You shouldn't feel bad about winning, and I don't think you're obligated to bring food or drinks or something extra, unless that's something other players routinely do. If other players do that, you should be the No. 1 provider.

I can't help but think you're not assessing yourself in the game better. I would bet there is something abrasive about you, some cockiness when you win a hand or some smirk when someone makes a bad play, that causes the other players to not like you.

If they really are just a bunch or sad, angry degenerates, then I would say shear the sheep as long as you can until you get kicked out or their angry attitude makes sitting there unbearable.

But if the game's important to you, financially or otherwise, make sure you're doing everything you can do first.

[Jeffmet3]

the simple solution is just to limp a ton and play very loose preflop.

you can still make a profit, but it'll allow you to spread some of your money around and make them want you to stay in the game.

plus, it'll be fun to play.

[nawhead]

Sounds like a classic case of weak tight on loose passive violence. Start gambling it up more and stop being such a nit. Put some bluffs out there. Call down some close situations. Let the guys think your game is slipping. In sum, realize you have to be deceptive metagame-wise, not just in individual hands. If they start to believe you are a poker shark and nothing else, you'll be 86'd eventually.

[Barfunkel]

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I have been playing in the same homegame for the last year. We play 1/2 with $200 buyin and just recently started a 2/5 $500 game.

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IMHO this is the real problem here. Sounds like the people you play with can't handle a game this big, possibly losing a few thousand a month is way too much for normal people. Move back to NL200.