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Old 07-04-2007, 08:45 PM
campi campi is offline
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Default 50NL: AA vs. a steamer

Villain is a LAG, he was up to 4 buyins but after losing one, he seems to be on tilt, making some unusually big PFR-s.

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
4 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $99.10
Button: $30.35
hero: $85.50
BB: $50

Pre-flop: (4 players) hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $2</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $10</font>, hero calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($24.5, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $18</font>, hero calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($60.5, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $60</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero calls all-in $55.25</font>.
Uncalled bets: $4.75 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $171

1. Should I have raised more PF?
2. Anyone reraising the flop or folding on later streets?
3. Turn + river standard? Or should be more aggressive?
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Old 07-04-2007, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: AA vs. a steamer

1. Sometimes I will open for more than standard with your read. $2 = $3 very often if LAG villain is steaming/splashing around. Also, a bigger preflop open increases post flop bet/pot sizes which is great for us. At the same time, I think preflop is totally, totally fine/std as played and I probably do the same 80%+ of the time even with the read.

2/3. I'm sure I play it the exact same and I think it really really sucks if he had a {Tx/JJ/44} here. But I think this guy can have {air, pp, Jx, QQ/KK} more often so I think hero's line is maximising EV against that range.

Just IMO.
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Old 07-04-2007, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: AA vs. a steamer

its standard
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: AA vs. a steamer

nah if he has 44 its pretty cool

Does anyone like open shoving the river):
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:25 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: AA vs. a steamer

i thought above just shoving the river but I think any J will bet the river anyway and we might induce some rediculous bluff by checking.
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: AA vs. a steamer

also I think I would probably raise the turn. Jx is not folding and neither are we so get it in before an A, K, or Q hits the river to slow Jx down.
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: AA vs. a steamer

Are u posting this because he had a 10? id really like to know cause this is super standard, especially after that turn lol, if he has a ten then u gotta pay off after that turn...
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: AA vs. a steamer

I just dont see anyone making any serious bluff on that board after we called that turn

Raising turn all in is probably better than shoving river yeah
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Old 07-05-2007, 05:52 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: AA vs. a steamer

Thanks for all the replies, I'm new to NL, it's good to see other players' way of thinking.

I was putting him on a similar range that Chump did, excluding JJ, which he'd have raised preflop. So basically, the only thing I was afraid was a ten.

To Sightless: I forgot to mention that he was a LAG, and steaming, but I have seen some river laydowns, and I though I could induce a bluff from him easier with a worse hand (bad fix-limit-based-thinking, right?), he'll only pay my river bet off with a Jx. So, that was the reason against shoving the river.

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Are u posting this because he had a 10?

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No, mhwg. He had a busted open-ender [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] A few hands later he steamed away all his chips, mostly to me:

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Stack sizes:
hero: $172.05
CO: $18.50
Button: $49.25
SB: $11.60
BB: $30.35

Pre-flop: (5 players) hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $2.5</font>, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $11.35</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $20.7</font>, CO folds.
Uncalled bets: $9.35 returned to hero.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($25.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $25.7)


Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($25.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $25.7)


River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($25.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $25.7)


Results:
Final pot: $25.7
<font color="#ffffff">hero shows QD AS </font>
<font color="#ffffff">SB shows KC 9D </font>
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Old 07-05-2007, 06:43 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: AA vs. a steamer

Which line is better - call turn &amp; openshove river OR cRAI turn?
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