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Old 07-05-2007, 01:47 AM
yimc17 yimc17 is offline
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Default KK 50NL deepstack

BB is running at 26/20/1.6 over 130 hands. I have not seen him get out of line yet.
when he cold calls my 3-bet from the BB I put on JJ+, possible AK. I figure he folds JJ on the flop, which leaves QQ,KK,AA and possibly AKd. I think I should have bet turn and fold to a raise, but since I didn't i really don't know what i am beating on the river after he cold calls my preflop raise. should i call this river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($98.75)
UTG ($2.20)
MP ($56.10)
Button ($103.05)
Hero ($149.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, BB calls $5.50, MP calls $4.50.

Flop: ($18) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $13</font>, BB calls $13, MP folds.

Turn: ($44) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $26</font>, Hero calls $26.

River: ($96) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $53.75 (All-In)</font>, Hero...???
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Old 07-05-2007, 01:59 AM
ILDUCE47 ILDUCE47 is offline
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Default Re: KK 50NL deepstack

After a safe blank, I would lead at the turn like you said. But the way the hand was played, I am suspicious of TT. You are only beat by AA, TT, and AQ. He would probably re-raise preflop w/ AA, and I doubt he would call w/ AQ preflop. I am probably calling this river, but it's close.
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: KK 50NL deepstack

You are pretty much giving this hand away the way you played the turn. After you c/c the turn and check the river I would've played ATC the way villain plays here . Lead the turn for $35 and see what happens.
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: KK 50NL deepstack

What is surprising to me is that given his image, I can't believe he wouldn't be raising at some point in this hand with a monster like TT or QQ, I just find it hard to believe he's cold calling these bets here with just AQ and not raising to find out if his hand is good or what.... I had a similar hand at $25 NL within the last 2 days for an almost 400 BB pot too... it went something like this...


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $24.75
Hero (BB): $48.85
UTG: $30.75
MP: $25.40
CO: $48.20
BTN: $24.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.25</font>, CO calls $4.25

Flop: ($10.60) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $20.00</font>, Hero calls $13.00

Turn: ($50.60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets all-in for $22.95</font>, Hero calls $22.95

River: ($96.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $96.50 ($3 Rake)

CO had Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (four of a kind, Queens) and WON (+$45.30)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Queens) and LOST (-$48.20)
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: KK 50NL deepstack

I have a healthy policy for medium 3bet pots.

If I am the 3bettor, I hold an overpair to the board and I am not all in by the river, I take my Big Rubber Hammer and hammer myself a couple of times on the head until I reach dzen. The only thing IMHO you should be worried about here is slowplayed aces, but so what. Rinse, repeat.

Second one is a totally different hand.
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: KK 50NL deepstack

Bet fold turn I think. If he calls turn bet then push blank river I think.
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: KK 50NL deepstack

bet fold turn, turn is a total blank, if Villian shoves he has you beat, if he calls we have a problem on the river. My line then would be check call a reasonable bet.
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