Folding Big Overpairs Early in Tournaments, 4 hands.

[JayPez]

Folding Overpairs

I’ve recently come in to a lot of situations early in tournaments where I’ve started to folding big overpairs or strong tptk, or calling where I should be not. I am not sure if correctly. I would like some advise on the below hands to decifer whether or not I’m making the correct play vs a default unknown player where unspecified.

Hand 1.

1st level of $500 ub tourny, blinds 5/10. all eff stacks 2500.

1 mp1 limp. Hero on button has jj raises to 45. sb calls, mp1 calls.

Pot 145
Flop 2s6h7s

Sb checks, mp1 bets 145, hero calls (I think I should be raising here), sb raises to 480, mp1 folds, hero calls?? (main question in hand).

Turn 2d

Sb bets 900 hero ??????

Hand 2.

Full Tilt Poker Game #2834875221: $1K Monday (21092409), Table 15 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:23:26 ET - 2007/07/02
Seat 1: IWEARGOGGLES (2,550)
Seat 2: magikstick8 (3,650)
Seat 3: A__theKevlar__2 (2,710)
Seat 4: Jaypahhee (3,090)
Seat 5: fergwrx (3,315)
Seat 6: gboro780 (3,010)
Seat 7: sadlickiusmc (4,845)
Seat 8: santo22 (830)
Seat 9: stevehung (3,000)
IWEARGOGGLES posts the small blind of 15
magikstick8 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jaypahhee [Kh Ks]
A__theKevlar__2 folds
Jaypahhee raises to 105
fergwrx folds
gboro780 folds
sadlickiusmc folds
santo22 folds
stevehung folds
IWEARGOGGLES folds
magikstick8 calls 75
*** FLOP *** [4d 3d Ts]
magikstick8 checks
Jaypahhee has 15 seconds left to act
Jaypahhee bets 180
magikstick8 raises to 660
Jaypahhee has 15 seconds left to act
Jaypahhee calls 480
*** TURN *** [4d 3d Ts] [2h]
magikstick8 has 15 seconds left to act
magikstick8 bets 2,040
Jaypahhee ????????

Hand 3.

UB $200 aruba sat. blinds 10/20 eff stacks 3000

Hero utg with QQ raises to 75 all folds to sb who reraises to 240, hero calls.

Pot 500
Flop J72 rainbow.

Villain bets 400, hero calls.

Pot 1300
Turn 4 (completing rainbow).

Villain bets 1000 hero ???????

Hand 4. Stars $150

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t1920)
Hero (t1960)
SB (t1950)
BB (t1990)
UTG (t1890)
UTG+1 (t1760)
MP1 (t2270)
MP2 (t1950)
MP3 (t2250)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t40</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t180</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t180, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: (t430) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t420</font>, Hero calls t420.

Turn: (t1270) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t1670 (All-In)</font>, Hero ????

Advice on these hands is greatly appreciated.

Pez.

(sry about lack of conversions, if anyone knows a converter for full tilt tourney hands let me know! Thanks.)

[registrar]

Disclaimer: I don't fold overpairs and, perhaps connected to this point, it's [censored] ages since I've won anything significant.

#1: I probably call the turn. I think he's counterfeited often enough here. A lot depends on timing tells but if he instaleads the turn, I'm giving him a lot less credit for a boat and 88-TT, 89, 45 and 67 are enough of his range here that I'm not folding.

#2. Really don't know. I'd 3bet shove the flop against an unknown but I reckon this is pretty villain dependent.


#3: I probably fold on the turn. Never played UB but this is a pretty stubborn AK very rarely IMO.

#4. This is one of those hands that I really know I should fold but just can't. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[THAY3R]

I don't like this whole "Ooh I have an overpair on the flop I call/ Oh noes I have an overpair on the turn should I fold?" strategy.

Either fold on the flop or go to the felt with it.

#1 Go broke
#2 Go broke
#3 Fold flop
#4 Go broke

[Cornell Fiji]

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I don't like this whole "Ooh I have an overpair on the flop I call/ Oh noes I have an overpair on the turn should I fold?" strategy.

Either fold on the flop or go to the felt with it.

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Agreed.

[A_Junglen]

Hand #1: Raise the donk-bet, fold to any action from SB. After flat-calling 145, fold to the 480.

Hand #2: You bet 180 into 165 and was c/r'd huge..? Fold.

Hand #3: Folding the flop. Your &gt; pot size UTG raise was re-raised from the SB....

Hand #4: Probably shoving flop and losing.


Ugly, cringe-inducing hands [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[gobboboy]

I fold the flop in the first one once the SB raises, I don't mind the smoothcall. I'd raise the turn if he pots again though.

Adam, he made a pretty standard bet on the second hand with KK. I stick it in on the turn and that's what I'm planning on doing once I call the flop.

Fold flop in third one.

Fold flop in fourth one. His bet is way too big to be a bluff.

[A_Junglen]

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Adam, he made a pretty standard bet on the second hand with KK. I stick it in on the turn and that's what I'm planning on doing once I call the flop.

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I don't think magikstick8 is going crazy in the first orbit of the 1k. He's shown ridic strength and she pots a &gt; pot sized bet.

[Exitonly]

there are no bigger than pot sized bets in the hand, the open was to 105 pf, bet 180 into a 225 pot on flop, the c/r was to 660 and pot would be 765.

[A_Junglen]

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there are no bigger than pot sized bets in the hand, the open was to 105 pf, bet 180 into a 225 pot on flop, the c/r was to 660 and pot would be 765.

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lol drugs are bad


hand #3: Feels kinda dirty going broke in a spot like this, but now that I've actually read the bet-sizes I can't fault it.