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Old 07-04-2007, 03:03 AM
Boo Boo Boo Boo is offline
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Default I thought it was alright but got berated in chat.

Villain is 39.7/15.3/0.71

Cryptologic
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8BB
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Old 07-04-2007, 03:25 AM
TheHip41 TheHip41 is offline
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Default Re: I thought it was alright bot got berated in chat.

i don't get what's going on here.

i mean, the title, who's a bot, what is being said.

the hand looks fine.
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Old 07-04-2007, 03:36 AM
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Default Re: I thought it was alright bot got berated in chat.

My fault typo. It is fixed now. I was talking about the hand in general. I thought it was pretty straight forward
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:38 AM
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Default Re: I thought it was alright bot got berated in chat.

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the hand looks fine.

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I disagree

I hate the 3-bet for free card HU in this spot. HATE IT!

If you 3-bet the flop you should bet the turn brick as it is likely that a) you still have the best hand and want to put in the bet on the turn not the river and b) you can possibly get a fold from a low pair.

Obviously this depends on reads on villain. But if you cant achieve either of these two things with a turn bet you should not 3-bet the flop and prevent getting 4-bet with your draw or having to call a turn donk.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: I thought it was alright bot got berated in chat.

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the hand looks fine.

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I disagree

I hate the 3-bet for free card HU in this spot. HATE IT!

If you 3-bet the flop you should bet the turn brick as it is likely that a) you still have the best hand and want to put in the bet on the turn not the river and b) you can possibly get a fold from a low pair.

Obviously this depends on reads on villain. But if you cant achieve either of these two things with a turn bet you should not 3-bet the flop and prevent getting 4-bet with your draw or having to call a turn donk.

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I didnt like it but couldnt find explain why. This sums up my thinking nicely.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: I thought it was alright bot got berated in chat.

This is one of those hands where I would be checking his c/r on the flop ratio. A lot of guys will c/r this flop with any pair. In that case I like the flop but hate the turn. If he doesn't c/r raise the flop much then I probably just call the flop and go from there.
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Old 07-04-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: I thought it was alright bot got berated in chat.

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of this hand. Free card plays aren't really ever a good idea in a HU situation, you're almost always better off pushing your fold equity on the turn. Especially when you have a very weak draw like this.
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