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07-03-2007, 11:29 AM
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Throwing Chips into Pot
Wasn't sure where else to post this question. In a live game, when someone tosses his chips towards the pot with a little more force than he normally uses, this is suppose to be a tell. But, does it mean he's strong or weak? Any references on the subject are appreciated. Thanks
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#2
07-03-2007, 11:38 AM
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Re: Throwing Chips into Pot
Weak.
It's mentioned in Phil Gordon's Little Green Book.
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07-03-2007, 01:02 PM
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Re: Throwing Chips into Pot
Weak X2. Read carros book. He says if you toss your chips into the pot that is because you arent expecting them to come back. If you place them close to you infront you are expecting them to come back.
But if the player you are playing against knows you know this then it will get interesting depending on how much thinking you both are doing.
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#5
07-03-2007, 01:44 PM
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Re: Throwing Chips into Pot
It depends if he has Russian accent and is eating orioles....
Hellmuth actually talks about this in an issue of poker player - I will try and dig it out for you. As a general rule it is best not to decide your future action on a tell which can easily be faked or even misconstrued by you. There are of course exceptions but these must be backed up by data on that player and that player alone. Read Mike Caro's book of tells
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#6
07-03-2007, 01:55 PM
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Re: Throwing Chips into Pot
Tells are basically conjecture.
What has your opponent shown down? What are his starting requirments? How many pots does he play? Does he tend to call or raise? How does he see you? How many outs do you have if he is ahead? All these questions are more important than what X,Y or Z might mean in my opinion.
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#7
07-03-2007, 02:02 PM
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Re: Throwing Chips into Pot
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It depends if he has Russian accent and is eating orioles.... [/ QUOTE ] I didn't know eating baseball players (or birds) was a tell. In theory you are supposed to correlate a tell with what you see on a showdown to validate that it is in fact a tell for a player. Having said that, this one sounds weak
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#8
07-03-2007, 02:44 PM
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Re: Throwing Chips into Pot
If you have no history of what kind of hand the player has had in the past when he did this it means nothing. Unless the person has never played poker, most general tells such as "weak means strong, strong means weak" are worthless. Almost everyone who plays poker is aware of this supposed tell since I think almost everyone who plays poker has seen Rounders.
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#9
07-03-2007, 05:28 PM
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Re: Throwing Chips into Pot
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Almost everyone who plays poker is aware of this supposed tell since I think almost everyone who plays poker has seen Rounders. [/ QUOTE ] Rounders also tells people to play tight & aggressive, so obviously the lessons of the film haven't become a universal trend just yet. Although I haven't seen too many people eating oreos (or birds) at the table.
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#10
07-03-2007, 07:32 PM
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Re: Throwing Chips into Pot
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[ QUOTE ] Almost everyone who plays poker is aware of this supposed tell since I think almost everyone who plays poker has seen Rounders. [/ QUOTE ] Rounders also tells people to play tight & aggressive, so obviously the lessons of the film haven't become a universal trend just yet. Although I haven't seen too many people eating oreos (or birds) at the table. [/ QUOTE ] People love to gamboooooool, so tight aggressive play will never be universal.
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