NL50: KK gets multi-way paired flop and CR

[chaz64]

In an earlier hand UTG paid me off when I also had KK on a Q22 board with his QJs (we were HU).

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $35.15
BB: $49.25
UTG: $36.40
MP: $12.15
Hero (CO): $74.45
BTN: $56.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.00</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $2.50, MP calls $2.50

Flop: ($9.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $12.00</font>, MP calls all-in for $9.15, Hero?

Am I supposed to give one of these guys credit for AA/33/7x and lay this down? Or is QQ-88 giving action often enough here?

Comments appreciated.

[jerryf1914]

it seems to me they always have it when they play like that. here are some of my examples from today:

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $9.95
BB: $13.35
UTG: $10.00
MP: $7.50
Hero (CO): $9.75
BTN: $10.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.85) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $0.85</font>, Hero calls $0.85

River: ($2.55) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $2.55</font>, Hero calls $2.55

Pot Size: $7.65 ($0.75 Rake)

BB had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Jacks) and WON (+$3.10)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Jacks) and LOST (-$3.80)


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $9.70
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $12.00
CO: $2.45
BTN: $19.15

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $0.10, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.50</font>, UTG calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.05) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.05</font>, UTG calls $1.05

Turn: ($3.15) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($3.15) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $1.50</font>, Hero calls $1.50

Pot Size: $6.15 ($0.60 Rake)

UTG had Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Eights) and WON (+$2.50)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Eights) and LOST (-$3.05)

i mean come on its [censored] heads up wtf???

[RedJoker]

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Am I supposed to give one of these guys credit for AA/33/7x and lay this down? Or is QQ-88 giving action often enough here?

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I'd include 44-66 in his range as well. Any stats? Maybe you could post the KK vs. QJ hand for comparison.

I'm tempted to just stick it all in here.

[jessyj07]

Did he play his QJ in a similar manner?

[chaz64]

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Did he play his QJ in a similar manner?

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Villain is LAP (69 hands). Here is earlier hand, I was committed and gave him no chance to C/R:

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $77.05
Hero (BB): $39.35
UTG: $60.30
CO: $2.80
BTN: $57.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $2.50</font>, SB calls $2.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10.00</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $7.50

Flop: ($23) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $29.35</font>, SB calls $29.35

Turn: ($81.70) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($81.70) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $81.70 ($2 Rake)

SB had Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a full house, Deuces full of Queens) and LOST (-$39.35)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Deuces full of Kings) and WON (+$40.35)

[Debaser]

He only has $21 left after his retard raise, just shove and pray. He won't fold any overpair and he might call you with 44-66.

You could wait til the turn but you don't want any action killers coming off to freeze him up. Just stick it in now and hope for the best.

[morny]

MP is proabably calling all in with a wide range here so i think i push here as your only options are push or fold. Id like to have a read about hes min raise but you can rule out AA for both as they both limp called preflop and they would raise/3bet/push preflop with AA. If the villains willing to get stacked with QJ then your ahead of enough overcards for this to be +EV and i wouldnt even worry about MP, probably has a pair of 2's and even if hes ahead you can still win the big sidepot off UTG and make a profit

[Shizzle12345]

they even do this with high cards, push any day here. If they happen to have it, dont worry, they usually dont. And u get paid off so often here by worse hands.