What would you like to see an ACist write about?

[NeBlis]

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You are not reading my post very well. Where do you see Democrats are the shizzle in that thread? I summarized my lead post as Iraq = Vietnam. The disaster of Vietnam, as I have pointed out many, many times in this forum, was created by lying, immoral Democrats. No liberal on this forum has been more critical of Democratic heroes (Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Clinton) than I have.

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Sorry if I misscharacterized you Andy I will pay closer attention in the future. I always assumed that your criticisms were along the lines of "they should be more liberal ie more democrat"
And don't get me wrong I enjoy your posts even if I disagree.

[kidpokeher]

I remember reading a couple threads about how AC'ers would handle roads and a police force and thought, "these guys are out of their [censored] minds." I dunno, maybe you can convince me otherwise.

[zenfurni]

One of the objections that people seem to have to AC is that large agglomerations of economic power can lead to coercion, and rebuttals seem to take the tack of "competition would make those agglomerations/monopolies impossible." Well enough.

I'd like to see an ACist's take on a more specific issue, such as racial/cultural/religious discrimination. If there's a majority who approve of discrimination, wouldn't the minority get excluded from most markets? If someone decides to set up shop in the smaller, "excluded" market, wouldn't they be able to charge higher prices due to reduced information availability?
Also, in an AC world, what would stop the existence of slavery?

Sorry if I'm being overly controversial, I'm just curious to see a well-thought-out argument on a topic that isn't often addressed in my (cursory) reading of the politics forum.

[ShakeZula06]

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One of the objections that people seem to have to AC is that large agglomerations of economic power can lead to coercion, and rebuttals seem to take the tack of "competition would make those agglomerations/monopolies impossible." Well enough.

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If you're against large agglomerations of economic power you should probably be against the largest of all, the state.
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I'd like to see an ACist's take on a more specific issue, such as racial/cultural/religious discrimination. If there's a majority who approve of discrimination, wouldn't the minority get excluded from most markets?

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No, this problem applies towards democracies, not markets. After slavery was abolished white business owners immediately began hiring blacks, then white workers ran to government to make this illegal in the form of Jim Crow laws.

The market penalizes against employee and consumer discrimination. If you're not hiring the best canidate for the job (assuming they get paid the same) it's going to cost you. If you're going to banish off minority populations all it's doing is limiting market share and would probably ruin you in a society that looked at racial discrimination as wrong.
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Also, in an AC world, what would stop the existence of slavery?


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Any number of things. How exactly do you expect slavery to get started?

[ShakeZula06]

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famous =/= respected.

Look what they did to Ron Paul just for his comment about 9/11, what do you think the media would do to someone that thought government shouldn't exist?


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That may be true, Shake, but it still doesn't really answer the quesetion as to why there are zero (as far as I know) famous, well respected Americans who are ACers. There are thousands of famous people in the country. Businessman, athletes, actors, musicians, journalists etc...why hasn't one of them come out of the closet as an ACer?

Would the media generally make fun of somebody who held your beliefs? Very likely. However, I don't think that is the reason no famous ACer has come out of the closet. I think it is because there aren't any in the closet. I seriously doubt there is any famous, generally respected person who actually believes in the things you do. I know this has little to do with your OP about explaining AC theory, but until there are well-respected people advocating your positions, I seriously doubt they are ever going to gain any traction. Converting a few people on poker message boards is fine, but I am sure you will acknowledge you are going to have to do more than that to achieve your goals.

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There are many people I'd describe as "well respected" that are ACists. Hell just look at the accomplishments of the people that write for mises.org and libertariannation.org. Just because the media (the same media that is in bed with the government) doesn't talk about them doesn't mean anything, in fact it's expected. Alan Greenspan would even agree with 90%+ of ACist positions (although he certainly suddenly changed his views when he was appointed to his former position).

Who are you even talking about when you say famous? Like actors, crap like that? What makes you think any ACist anywhere cares what actors who haven't studied the issue in depth thinks? I'd expect anyone everywhere in America to believe the US government has legitamacy by default, they've been told it all their lives by parents, schools, and the media. How about politicans? It should be pretty obvious why no politicians are ACists.

[JackWhite]

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Who are you even talking about when you say famous? Like actors, crap like that? What makes you think any ACist anywhere cares what actors who haven't studied the issue in depth thinks? I'd expect anyone everywhere in America to believe the US government has legitamacy by default, they've been told it all their lives by parents, schools, and the media. How about politicans? It should be pretty obvious why no politicians are ACists.

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Wouldn't you agree, though, that to advance your AC agenda, you are going to need some famous people who advocate your beliefs? Converting people 1 at a time on a message board won't do it. You are going to need well respected indviduals to help legitimize a philosophy that most Americans currently reject.

[ShakeZula06]

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Who are you even talking about when you say famous? Like actors, crap like that? What makes you think any ACist anywhere cares what actors who haven't studied the issue in depth thinks? I'd expect anyone everywhere in America to believe the US government has legitamacy by default, they've been told it all their lives by parents, schools, and the media. How about politicans? It should be pretty obvious why no politicians are ACists.

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Wouldn't you agree, though, that to advance your AC agenda, you are going to need some famous people who advocate your beliefs? Converting people 1 at a time on a message board won't do it. You are going to need well respected indviduals to help legitimize a philosophy that most Americans currently reject.

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Sure, I'm just saying the idea that no famous actors or politicians advocate ACism doesn't mean anything.