River Bluff

[ipp147]

Not many hands on opponent but he seems laggy - 35/23

No real postflop read.

Who likes/Who dislikes.

Who prefers a turn push or flop raise?


Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $186.91
BB: $244.00
UTG: $212.25
MP: $236.05
CO: $147.43
Hero (BTN): $204.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $6.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $6.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($15) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $8.00</font>, Hero calls $8.00

Turn: ($31) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $66.00</font>, MP calls $46.00

River: ($163) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $124.00</font>,

[pokerprose]

Hmm, I probably raise the flop. I don't mind raising the turn here, since he needs to fold most hands that we're behind (1 pair hands) but when calls I get a little worried.

I guess the river shove is OK because I'm afraid he is going to have some type of combo draw on the turn when he calls- KT clubs, A6 diamond, etc. Obviously any Q calls us now but I think we get folds from AA/KK often enough here as we're repping a FH or at worst trips.

[blackbort]

fold pf, turn and river are spewy, id way rather raise the flop here

[Spy Dog]

I raise the flop since I am willing to call a 3-bet. Calling flop to raise the turn is OK, also. With a hand this strong (nut flush + overcard), we certainly want to apply pressure to villain and try and get him to fold before showdown.

I think I check the river. I think he's calling the turn with KK/AA/Qx/KJ/J9 and some diamond draws. I don't believe he folds his better hands here enough to make a bluff worthwhile.

[cbboy]

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fold pf, turn and river are spewy, id way rather raise the flop here

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Why?!?!

[Poker_is_Hard]

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fold pf, turn and river are spewy, id way rather raise the flop here

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What was the plan?... What is your river shove representing? A Q... why would you raise the turn but not the flop?

Sure would look like a busted draw to me.

[Poker_is_Hard]

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fold pf, turn and river are spewy, id way rather raise the flop here

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Why?!?!

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Raising the flop properly reps a big Q, set, etc

[cbboy]

You don't think that raising the turn has more FE? Since a turn raise usually represents a hand &gt; 1 pair, thus making a lot of hands fold?

[pokerprose]

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You don't think that raising the turn has more FE? Since a turn raise usually represents a hand &gt; 1 pair, thus making a lot of hands fold?

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The turn raise is good for the reasons you described- we can get lots of better 1 pair hands to fold, it lets a loose agg player fire a second barrel.

But it's bad when he shoves over our FD. On the flop that's OK.

[Poker_is_Hard]

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You don't think that raising the turn has more FE? Since a turn raise usually represents a hand &gt; 1 pair, thus making a lot of hands fold?

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So you are going to rep the Q2? Raising on this turn seems out of place to me. If I was playing against it, I would read a flush draw that is concerned he/she won't get there and is now trying to win the pot.