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River Play with trips (LC)
Background: I am 4 tabling so I don't have a whole lot of information on anyone but I did watch this guy bet out every street with a flopped nut flush.
PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls. Flop: (12 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls. Turn: (9 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls. River: (12 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls. Final Pot: 18 BB What do you guys think of this river c/c? I don't think this guy cold called a straight draw on the flop against two bets so I think he has a lower Q or something like k10. |
#2
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Re: River Play with trips (LC)
You don't have enough of a read to know if UTG+1 can or can't call on the flop with KJ/J8 really. And he had odds to call with KJ anyways.
Definitely bet the river. You're good way too often and don't have a read that UTG+1 is going to bluff so you can check/raise. Once he raises, I'd probaby just call. I think a straight, 9s full, or a badly slowplayed full house are more likely than KT/A9. |
#3
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Re: River Play with trips (LC)
You really think KJ folds this flop? You think coldcalling a gutshot on the flop is less likely than limping Q8 pf?
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#4
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Re: River Play with trips (LC)
Why would your opponent wait until the river to raise with trips Q's as opposed to raising the turn ?
You also dont have a read on your opponent that he might try to bluff raise the river. So, I would have preferred to just call his river raise as opposed to 3-bet, as I suspect that he probably did make a straight. |
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Re: River Play with trips (LC)
just call the river raise. I don't think our equity is good enough to 3bet. If the other guy was still in, I would 3bet, but now we are headsup.
Buzz |
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Re: River Play with trips (LC)
him calling 2 cold on the flop then raising the river is a terrible sign its a draw TPGK two pair or a set almost all of which have u beat on the river that raise.
noone folds KJ in utg shoes and noone raises KT J9 on the river and calls a 3bet, worse Qs sometimes go for the overcall so that leaves 12 combos of KJ vs maybe 8 QJ a chop or AQ possibly. definitely just call this river and be happy if u won. |
#7
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Re: River Play with trips (LC)
I fold preflop.
Nobody else? =( |
#8
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Re: River Play with trips (LC)
from the SB? I'm not bothered by it.
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Re: River Play with trips (LC)
Looking at it from villain's perspective, it seems pretty clear to me based on the way preflop and flop went down, that you have at least split Queens or a slow played overpair. Which means most likely split Queens. The flop is fairly ragged so there would be no need for you to jam a pot on the flop with a draw.
If your opponent is paying any attention then he is not raising the river w/ anything less than a straight in my opinion. On the river, I bet and then just call his raise. |
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Re: River Play with trips (LC)
I am confused.
1. How is this LC? [ QUOTE ] River: (12 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls. Final Pot: 18 BB What do you guys think of this river c/c? [/ QUOTE ] 2. Where's the check/call? |
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