V bet this river? NL50

Tony Montana 22 · #1 07-01-2007, 01:23 AM

MP is a loose passive fish that calls with any two suited cards or any peice of the board, BTN (20/9/1) has been pretty nitty and I do not recall him calling any of my cbets, and has genarally stayed out of my way.

Looking back at this hand I am thinking my bet sizes should have been more like $6/$18

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($50.90)
SB ($41.60)
BB ($40.80)
UTG ($44.75)
MP ($121.45)
Hero ($50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.5, Button calls $2.50, 2 folds, MP calls $2.

Flop: ($8.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $5, Button calls $5, MP calls $5.

Turn: ($23.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $14.5, Button calls $14.50, MP folds.

River: ($52.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero ?

OnThInIcE911 · #2 07-01-2007, 01:42 AM

why not. your obviously ahead and u might get a call out of the missed club draw if it hit the ace.

Tony Montana 22 · #3 07-01-2007, 02:32 AM

Perhaps you care to explain how it so obvious?

jessyj07 · #4 07-01-2007, 02:52 AM

Meh despite the fact that you're usually ahead I think you should check. There isn't much value in a bet here. You could be outkicked(not likely)/he could have the flush/and the ace is likely a scare card for him that will make hands like QQ-TT not call the river because if you fire the river you obviously have them beat. So try to induce what you hope is a bluff.

maenger · #5 07-01-2007, 02:59 AM

I don't really see how it's obvious either.

If he's been playing like a nit, then I doubt he'd be calling an approx PSB on the turn with a flush draw. I'd be worried about kicker trouble here. Maybe check-call depending on his bet size.

To me a V bet here doesn't seem right. I don't see him calling with anything less than a K, and he may have a better kicker. If he doesn't have a K, his AF seems to suggest that he won't bluff in which case you'll win anyways. If he bets out in the 15-20 range I'd call.

OnThInIcE911 · #6 07-01-2007, 03:01 AM

he woulda raised at some point with a set or a higher K in most cases. and i cant think of any hand that would call flop that would river the flush. SO in almost all cases your ahead but i do like the idea of inducing the bluff. now that ive given it more thought c/c is the bes way to go on river.

monkover · #7 07-01-2007, 05:40 AM

just c/c, the reasons for that are obvious though

SuperUberBob · #8 07-01-2007, 05:46 AM

If this guy is a calling station, value bet your hand.

If you think he's capable of folding on the river to a value bet, check/call.