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#11
07-01-2007, 01:20 AM
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Re: Tough spot with QQ. 4-8 Live
I agree that I should have folded the turn. I stubbornly called (as did the button), and also called a brick river (button then folded) and he showed 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] .
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#12
07-01-2007, 04:41 AM
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Re: Tough spot with QQ. 4-8 Live
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I agree that I should have folded the turn. I stubbornly called (as did the button), and also called a brick river (button then folded) and he showed 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] . [/ QUOTE ] Folding the turn is terrible. Pot is big and you have an overpair.
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#13
07-01-2007, 06:45 AM
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Re: Tough spot with QQ. 4-8 Live
lol niediam you are super nitty sometimes and then super spewy other times!! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] kinda like me [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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#14
07-01-2007, 07:03 AM
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Re: Tough spot with QQ. 4-8 Live
Folding the turn sucks, the guy had 97, if he has 98 now he's drawing to 4 outs.
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#15
07-01-2007, 09:38 AM
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Re: Tough spot with QQ. 4-8 Live
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Folding the turn sucks, the guy had 97, if he has 98 now he's drawing to 4 outs. [/ QUOTE ] What are his likely hands? Is there's anything besides 98 that we're beating or have a reasonable draw against? Just because there's one possible hand we're ahead of doesn't mean we should continue.
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#16
07-01-2007, 01:57 PM
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Re: Tough spot with QQ. 4-8 Live
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[ QUOTE ] Folding the turn sucks, the guy had 97, if he has 98 now he's drawing to 4 outs. [/ QUOTE ] What are his likely hands? Is there's anything besides 98 that we're beating or have a reasonable draw against? Just because there's one possible hand we're ahead of doesn't mean we should continue. [/ QUOTE ] TT, T9, T8, 66, 86, 98, 9x spades, two big spades... and there there are of course the pair + gutshot draws, flush draw + gutshot draws, we are almost getting the odds to draw to a boat the times that he flopped a straight.
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#18
07-02-2007, 12:50 AM
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Re: Tough spot with QQ. 4-8 Live
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Folding the turn sucks, the guy had 97, if he has 98 now he's drawing to 4 outs. [/ QUOTE ] What are his likely hands? Is there's anything besides 98 that we're beating or have a reasonable draw against? Just because there's one possible hand we're ahead of doesn't mean we should continue. [/ QUOTE ] TT, T9, T8, 66, 86, 98, 9x spades, two big spades... and there there are of course the pair + gutshot draws, flush draw + gutshot draws, we are almost getting the odds to draw to a boat the times that he flopped a straight. [/ QUOTE ] I don't believe thats a realistic view of likely hands in a 4-8 live game where the SB capped the flop. However, if you think it is then by all means play accordingly. OP said that he was very confident he was beat when it got capped back to him on the flop. I'm basing my actions on that read.
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#19
07-02-2007, 01:27 AM
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Re: Tough spot with QQ. 4-8 Live
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Folding the turn sucks, the guy had 97, if he has 98 now he's drawing to 4 outs. [/ QUOTE ] What are his likely hands? Is there's anything besides 98 that we're beating or have a reasonable draw against? Just because there's one possible hand we're ahead of doesn't mean we should continue. [/ QUOTE ] TT, T9, T8, 66, 86, 98, 9x spades, two big spades... and there there are of course the pair + gutshot draws, flush draw + gutshot draws, we are almost getting the odds to draw to a boat the times that he flopped a straight. [/ QUOTE ] I don't believe thats a realistic view of likely hands in a 4-8 live game where the SB capped the flop. However, if you think it is then by all means play accordingly. OP said that he was very confident he was beat when it got capped back to him on the flop. I'm basing my actions on that read. [/ QUOTE ] Shrug, they are just possibilities. I'm not saying that we are not often (and probably usually) beat but we only have win something like 20% of the time to make calling down correct.
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#20
07-02-2007, 01:35 AM
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Re: Tough spot with QQ. 4-8 Live
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I'm not saying that we are not often (and probably usually) beat but we only have win something like 20% of the time to make calling down correct. [/ QUOTE ] Ah ha! There's our problem. I interpreted OPs comment to mean that he believes he isn't going to win 20% of the time.
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