Putting opponents on a range, no reads

[tewall]

In a typical small stakes SNG, with, say, 7 players left, blinds at 50/100, everyone involved in the hand with between 12 to 15 BB's, someone from MP limps, SB completes, what range do you put limper on to limp in with, SB to complete, and both to call an all-in bet from BB?

[Little John]

SB will complete really wide and rarely call a push.

MP - this is where you need a read.

[BHokie1]

FWIW I push AT/88 from the big blind here, some people may push wider, generally mp1 would be raising AJ/99 or better.

They fold often and if they call you are usually ahead, it's a nice spot to pick up a couple hundred chips and it helps deter people from limping in your blinds.

[tewall]

ty. any guesses as to typical ranges for MP?

[tewall]

AT/88 is for sure +EV, regardless of calling range, even assuming MP likes to limp in with his strongest hands. I'm trying to figure out what hands are enough +EV to be comporable in terms of edge to pushes when one is the first one in.

[Austiger]

tewall-

You can't generalize this play whatsoever. Some villains will never open-limp in MP at the 50/100 level. Some villains limp all the time and then sometimes almost ATC are +EV. I suggest you play the situation and your opponent more than trying to come up with a range to always push.

[ymu]

MPs range is read dependent. If he limps into loads of pots he's probably got a "pretty" hand. You need to recall how frequently he limp-calls a raise, and what he had on those occasions you saw his cards or the action made it obvious (eg if he called big bets on a 2-suited rag flop and a 3-suited rag turn but folds the river, he's probably an any two soooted kind of limper, and a horribly loose caller).

If he doesn't limp often and open raises with reasonable frequency, it's usually a smallish PP. If he limps a lot but raises his fair share then add in a weak A or any 2 broadway, some SCs. If he usually limps it could be anything at all.

At low buy-ins, small PPs frequently limp-reraise AI and rarely fold to a push. Some players can't fold a weak A either. But some players limp-fold most of the time. You need to know which he is.

If the table has been wild, or there's an AI maniac to act behind him and he's not obviously a habitual open-limper, be a lot more cautious.

[HY77]

From what I've seen, if he's a [censored] player, most of the time it's Ax or two high cards. If he's a little better it's usually a pocket pair or suited connectors.