Man I hate this PF AKs

[Kimpan]

sb is 48/11/1.6, BB is 24/14/2
I hate folding AKs here, my raise OTB looks like a blindsteal and the sb calling makes a good situation for BB to squeeze. Looking at his stats it is quite possible he is capable of making that kind of move.
But I feel pushing is too much. Calling is probably the worst of the three though, so why do I do it?
I know I have to fold if I miss flop and he bets.


Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $102.48
CO: $161.95
Hero: $118.40
SB: $133.10
BB: $100

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $18</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($40, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $30</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $30 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $40

[Jamougha]

Folding preflop is definitely your worst option against someone who you think 3-bets light.

24/14 is not terribly aggressive. If he were 24/20 then I would often push preflop and if I called I would push the flop maybe half the time here.

As it is this looks OK.

[sixhigh]

I don't mind rereraising pre even against a xx/14. But it's close enough. Shoving over his cbet is def. possible, but somewhat itchy and most likely -EV.
I don't see why you _hate_ the way you played - it's not like you took a very bad line with your hand.

[Kimpan]

It's probably because I have made similar line with AQs, even AQo at some point.
With AQs/AQ, this is a easy fold pre?

[Nick Royale]

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It's probably because I have made similar line with AQs, even AQo at some point.
With AQs/AQ, this is a easy fold pre?

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Yea I fold AQ preflop. A lot of the value calling with AK is that we can easily be up against AQ and win a decent pot when an A flops. With AQ the scenario is likely to be reversed when up against AK and our implied odds postflop goes way down and doesn't justify a call of such a big raise preflop.

[plsfoldthx]

I really hate calling 3 bets with any unpaired Face cards, INCLUDING AK because of this situation, yea if you hit an A or K you're probably ahead. If he has been 3 betting light, then it's an all in preflop. If he seemed that way, but only after a few hands, then this line is OK i guess?

[Jamougha]

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Shoving over his cbet is def. possible, but somewhat itchy and most likely -EV.

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With 70 in the pot and 80 behind and some pot equity when called he has to fold about 50% for a shove to be break-even. Even is his range is {JJ+, AK} he'll fold that often.

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With AQs/AQ, this is a easy fold pre?


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Depends on how often you've seen him 3-bet. Fold is fine.

[Gelford]

Grunch ... just 4bet or push pf .. Holla !

[BombayBadboy]

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Grunch ... just 4bet or push pf .. Holla !

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[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

this is a squeeze the vast majority of the time.

i really think you need to value 4bet this preflop, make it like 53. pushing isnt terrible either