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Old 06-29-2007, 12:43 AM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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Default Re: 200NL, 77, and this is why i don\'t move up

i really hate every single street. i would love to hear any thought processes
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Old 06-29-2007, 02:09 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, 77, and this is why i don\'t move up

there aren't thought processes......i wouldn't be playing this level if i were you...go lose less at 50NL
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Old 06-29-2007, 03:00 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, 77, and this is why i don\'t move up

If you want to get fancy by raising this pre against a limp putting you OOP for the rest of the hand you have to really know what you're doing, if not you'll just end up leaking chips like this.

Flop bet is too small.

Turn why are you betting? If you are double barreling to represent the king (which is a good play in this spot) you have to bet more so he gets scared and folds. I would have bet 40 and then you can be done with it if he calls. R

River you should just check fold. Your bet is very bad and if you don't no why you should def. move down to 100NL for a while.
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Old 06-29-2007, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, 77, and this is why i don\'t move up

ew. turn double barrel is good but make it bigger. River is just nasty, donks make this bet all the time and I can never figure why.
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, 77, and this is why i don\'t move up

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there aren't thought processes......i wouldn't be playing this level if i were you...go lose less at 50NL

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how constructive and helpful of you.

OP,

shut down on the turn. at least stop leading...
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:26 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, 77, and this is why i don\'t move up

Just complete in the SB, no reason to build a big pot OOP, bet 3/4 pot on flop. Turn bet 2/3 when a king comes which is very likely to be in your range. And just c/f river.
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:49 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, 77, and this is why i don\'t move up

sb raise is fine. Flop is easy c-bet but make it 16 instead. Turn is a good card to bluff although checking is fine too. The K is not a great card to rep for a floater so if you face a bet you'll be behind most of the time. If not, it'll probably be checked down. If you're gonna bet turn, make it closer to pot. River is obv ugly as hell. Either 3-barrel big or c/f, possibly c/c if you have some obsene reason to do so.
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:53 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, 77, and this is why i don\'t move up

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there aren't thought processes......i wouldn't be playing this level if i were you...go lose less at 50NL

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come on. be constructive. Comments like these are useless.

Im almost always completing with low-mid PP from SB here but I don't hate the raise if I know my opponent.

If you choose to raise pf I think it's standard to lead this flop as you did. Would prefer it to be bigger though.

On turn I think that a second barrel is good because the K should be a scare card to quite a few of his potential holdings. Again you should bet bigger.

River is strange. What were you trying to do? If your gonna fire 3 barrels do it 100%. No hand that calls turn will fold to river bet except missed flush. The missed flush might try to raise you off when you bet this weak.

FWIW I probably call as played, but it's very marginal.
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:41 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, 77, and this is why i don\'t move up

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No hand that calls turn will fold to river bet except missed flush.

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I'm assuming you mean to this river bet cause a big river bet folds out a lot of holdings that called turn.
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:56 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, 77, and this is why i don\'t move up

I dont like the river bet because you're ahead of a missed flush draw so theres no point folding it out. I doubt youre folding anything else out.

If you really think he was drawing I would check call river. Without a read I would c/f
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