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Old 06-28-2007, 07:05 PM
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shoving here is horriblie IMO

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could you elaborate?

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Shoving turns our hand into a bluff? Aren't we only getting called by JJ+/AK here?
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: How to proceed vs likey squeezer

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shoving here is horriblie IMO

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could you elaborate?

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villain is 20/15 1st off which doesnt mean hes necessarily squeezing light.

you are risking 86 to win 22

if you get called you are at best coin flipping because he never calls lighter then 10 10.

we fold out some hands but i think if we decide to raise a PS4b does the same thing as a raise AI.
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:06 PM
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shoving 86 more into 22. uhhhhhh i dont think a 4 bet thats not all in is bad.

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Any 4-bet less than AI turns your hand into a bluff. There are times when I would call but vs. another clueful regular I'm definitely leaning towards shove. I'd say 73% shove/27% call.

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your graph must be \ because you have your reasoning ass backwards here
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: How to proceed vs likey squeezer

call shove nice flops.
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: How to proceed vs likey squeezer

thanks or replies guys
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: How to proceed vs likey squeezer

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shoving here is horriblie IMO

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could you elaborate?

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Shoving turns our hand into a bluff? Aren't we only getting called by JJ+/AK here?

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Um, you are ahead of AK. Plus you will sometimes get looked up by worse PPs putting you on AK. Definitely not a bluff by shoving.
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:17 PM
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If hero shoves, should SB call with AK? [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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with the quickness
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:18 PM
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shoving 86 more into 22. uhhhhhh i dont think a 4 bet thats not all in is bad.

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Any 4-bet less than AI turns your hand into a bluff. There are times when I would call but vs. another clueful regular I'm definitely leaning towards shove. I'd say 73% shove/27% call.

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your graph must be \ because you have your reasoning ass backwards here

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Then refute me, genius. Instead of resorting to ad hominem attacks.
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:18 PM
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shoving here is horriblie IMO

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could you elaborate?

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Shoving turns our hand into a bluff? Aren't we only getting called by JJ+/AK here?

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Um, you are ahead of AK. Plus you will sometimes get looked up by worse PPs putting you on AK. Definitely not a bluff by shoving.

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AK calls our shove ldo, and now we coinflip for a stack. JJ QQ KK AA also call.

if we have QQ here i like getting it in

10 10 we are way too far behind his range
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:19 PM
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shoving 86 more into 22. uhhhhhh i dont think a 4 bet thats not all in is bad.

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Any 4-bet less than AI turns your hand into a bluff. There are times when I would call but vs. another clueful regular I'm definitely leaning towards shove. I'd say 73% shove/27% call.

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