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View Poll Results: Would you rather be broke as a joke or a filthy rich overweight AxisOfEvilian?
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  #4711  
Old 06-28-2007, 06:20 PM
Bastian Bastian is offline
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Man, I have seen some [censored] in my time, but I have never steamed as hard as I am steaming right now


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($49)
CO ($41.83)
Button ($38.52)
SB ($74.58)
BB ($49.55)
Hero ($101.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $6.5</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, MP calls $13.50.

Flop: ($40.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

<font color="blue"> Hero open pushes and villain CALLS </font>

Turn: ($40.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($40.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $40.75

Results:
Hero has Kh Kc (one pair, kings).
MP has Ad Kd (one pair, aces).
Outcome: MP wins $40.75.

God FKING dammit that is UNREAL

Thank christ I have the sense to sit out

Jesus

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Old 06-28-2007, 06:25 PM
corsakh corsakh is offline
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I wish I could sit out after this [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Usually proceede into dumping another couple BI to random people. But thigs got better, before it was not uncommon for me to go on a 10BI downswing after a couple good suckouts [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-28-2007, 06:41 PM
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May the Lord strike me down if this is a word of a lie: These hands happened back-to-back against the same villain. The only thing that happened between Hand 1 and Hand 2 is that villain sat out, reloaded, posted blind dead and then came back to get hero.

Cliff notes are the bits in blue. Falling for it once, whatever. But falling for it twice in 2 minutes? Really.

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saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($53.90)
SB <font color="#C00000">Hero ($55.85)</font>
BB <font color="#C00000">BB ($46.22)</font>
UTG ($56.03)
UTG+1 ($29.45)

Preflop: Hero is in the SB with K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, Hero raises to 1.75, BB calls 1.50.

Flop (4.00) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero checks, BB checks.

Turn (4.00) Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero bets 3, BB calls 3.

River (10.00) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="blue">Hero checks, BB bets 0.50, Hero raises to 50.85, BB moves all-in for 40.72</font>

Hero shows K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
BB shows T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero wins 102.07 with A fullhouse, King's and Three's


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saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button <font color="#C00000">Button ($48.40)</font>
SB ($52.78)
BB ($26.45)
UTG ($10.95)
UTG+1 ($60.90)
CO <font color="#C00000">Hero ($98.32)</font>

Preflop: Hero is in the CO with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls 0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to 2.50, Button calls 2.50, 3 folds.

Flop (6.25) 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero bets 4, Button calls 4.

Turn (14.25) A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="blue">Hero checks, Button bets 0.50, Hero raises to 91.82, Button moves all-in for 41.40.</font>

River (147.97) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero shows A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Button shows A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero wins 147.97 with A fullhouse, Ace's and Six's </font>
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Old 06-28-2007, 06:46 PM
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Going over big-ish losses, and this is the only one Im not feeling great about... but I think it's defensible.

Ultimate Bet - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $57.65
BB: $29.20
UTG: $47.45
MP: $20.80
CO: $129.10
BTN: $79.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.25</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $3.50

Flop: ($11) (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $22.00</font>, Hero calls $15.00

Turn: ($55) (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($55) (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Pot Size: $55.00 ($2.75 Rake)

BTN had (two pair, queens and jacks, ace kicker) and WON (+$24.75)
Hero had (two pair, queens and jacks) and LOST (-$27.25)
  #4715  
Old 06-28-2007, 06:53 PM
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It is fine .. tho I'd be worried about aces actually !

(Edit: I wouldn't threebet KQ ... no way Jose)
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Old 06-28-2007, 06:53 PM
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lol @ button
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Old 06-28-2007, 06:55 PM
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lol @ button

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Now now Vyse ... lol leads to hate ... hate leads to anger ... and anger leads to the dark side
  #4718  
Old 06-28-2007, 07:01 PM
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No 3B w/ KQ? I hate calling in that spot, because you're kinda like, "OK.. where the eff am I on the flop?", but I guess since he called the 3B, Im kinda like that anyways, but with less cash in my proverbial pockets. And then I get raised.
Noted. No 3bing KQ.
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:05 PM
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I dunno if you should note it .. it is just my opinion, there was a Samo post (back in the day, where he posted other stuff than diagf and HU4ROLLZ posts), where he and empiremaker where at eachothers throats over a hand, where EM2 3bet QJs from the blinds.

Samo argued that you don't want those kinds of hands, as you ... as you say ... dunno where you are when you hit tptk due to domination and rio issue.

So Samo argued that you should 3bet the good stuff and utter trash .. but none of those in between hands.
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:05 PM
Vyse Vyse is offline
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And optimism leads to slippery slopes

I 3bet KQ all the time, and if I get into tricky spots post flop, whatever. I'll learn from it. At uNL they'll let you know readily enough if you are dominated, and since only one hand, for the most part, dominates you (AK is a lot more common than AQ because AK is one of the few hands donkvillains actually get aggressive with), you still have more hands YOU dominate and that extra TP value is worth it.
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