100nl - AT tptk 3bet pot vs maniac

[bubaloo]

Villain is 70/50/2.5 over 46 hands.

Reads: I saw him pfr then 3 barrel bluff with 5 high lol.

His PFR range is pretty much any two, I 3bet because I am crushing his range...

$0.5/$1 Blinds No Limit Hold'em
Hero ( $113.8 )
BTN ( $97.5 )
SB ( $87.07 )
BB ( $105.8 )
UTG ( $219.86 )
MP ( $186.1 )


Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG $6, 1 fold, <font color="red">Hero raises $16</font> , 3 folds, UTG calls.

Flop:($33.50) 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players</font>
UTG bets $193, <font color="red">Hero...???</font> [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

He could have any thing here, overcards, undercards, fd, oesd, 1 pair, 2 pair, set, straight.

I cant call this can I?

[theflyingcow]

So his range is "any two cards"? Then I guess I call. Also depends on how much variance you want to take + is he really a maniac or is he just building image?

[Jojje_2k]

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He could have any thing here, overcards, undercards, fd, oesd, 1 pair, 2 pair, set, straight.

I cant call this can I?

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wtf call?

[VPIP100]

I fold this and wait for a better spot. Either villain has you beat or hes drawing live, you dont have him crushed here ever.

[BustoPro]

Of course you can call. I call very fast. It's usually some draw, and if not you probably have outs, and if not gg him.

[Unknown Soldier]

i read the title and knew my answer involved not folding


...I stick by that

[Slap My Jack]

His range is wide here, but it includes powerful draws too. ATo is only a 53% favorite over 98o here.

It's hard to pokerstove his hand. But you could very well be crushed in this spot. This certainly isn't an instacall without a read.

You really need to know if he plays flopped monsters like this and sometimes people do.

Also depends on how you play when you raise, do you check behind a lot? Do you cbet? History?

[bubaloo]

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Also depends on how you play when you raise, do you check behind a lot? Do you cbet? History?

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Im running at 28/15/3.3, but i doubt hes paying attention to my image and ive only been sat 46 hands.
Up to this point ive cbet every hand i raised with and i think this was my second pf 3bet.
There was a hand where he raised 7.5 bb in the SB with QT and took someone with 55 bbs to the felt on a board of 3kq.

I posted this because i meet maniacs like this doing this sort of move all the time (pacific poker lol) and i not too sure how to handle them.

i guess its just a marginal call and there will be better spots, but the [censored] left 5 hands later.

[fees]

i call this all day.. just me

[BustoPro]

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His range is wide here, but it includes powerful draws too. ATo is only a 53% favorite over 98o here.

It's hard to pokerstove his hand. But you could very well be crushed in this spot. This certainly isn't an instacall without a read.

You really need to know if he plays flopped monsters like this and sometimes people do.

Also depends on how you play when you raise, do you check behind a lot? Do you cbet? History?

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Hero only has to be 43% here, and many of Villain's draws won't be strong since Hero has an A (e.g., Ax of clubs). The call really is very clear to me without a read that Villain is a good LAG instead of a maniac.