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Re: 25nl Overpair facing all in for 8 times pot
Come on seriously this is bad logic. Nobody who "wants to play for stacks" donk bet shoves AI for 8x+ pot. Preflop and flop this is not a line very many, if any people are taking with AA/KK. As I said earlier folding is fine because you haven't put anything into the pot, not because a straight flush is possible. Anyways, I have nothing more to add here, I am done I promise.
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Re: 25nl Overpair facing all in for 8 times pot
Well
If I see someone push on the river for over the pot I immediately think it's a monster and its usually is. Would this be any differant? |
#13
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Re: 25nl Overpair facing all in for 8 times pot
villian limp/called pre so I think we can discount AA and KK or at least say that they are highly unlikely. i think the worst hand you could possibly see would be 98 w/o the flush draw but a lot of the time this is probably a baby flush, set, two pair, straight, AcXx, 9x with a club, or 5x with a club. i don't think you're way behind but its hard to be way ahead. do you like to gamble?
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Re: 25nl Overpair facing all in for 8 times pot
Ive seen this line shown down twice and both times the all in pusher had a flush.
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Re: 25nl Overpair facing all in for 8 times pot
Villain's AF is almost non-existent and he has open shoved for 8 times the pot on a str8 flushing flop. It seems most likely to me that villain just isn't very good at value betting, not that he has picked this flop to make some sick bluff. IMO, calling with an overpair and the 3rd high FD is terrible (unless you have some special reason to think villain is on mega-monkey tilt).
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Re: 25nl Overpair facing all in for 8 times pot
Have a look at his AF, you are behind here. At best you are facing a very strong draw and you have nothing invested. If he does have the flush he is a moron, and if he doesn't, he's a moron. So just wait and eventually you'll get him.
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Re: 25nl Overpair facing all in for 8 times pot
You are definitely behind here - best case scenario for you is that he has a set. Fold. Agree with Ama - eventually you get this idiot, so wait for a better spot.
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Re: 25nl Overpair facing all in for 8 times pot
While I think that most of the times this kind of move is a bluff and we're probably ahead, I wouldn't mind finding a fold here.
It might be a little weak, but a call is going to be pretty high variance and considering we've invested very little in the pot so far I don't mind throwing it away. Also it reinforces this kind of behavior so the villian is more likely to do it again, hopefully when we're in a better spot. |
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Re: 25nl Overpair facing all in for 8 times pot
you think villain is thinking about calling ranges? LOL FOLD
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