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Maybe leak, maybe not.
I think this situation is very common and I used to go the felt here.
Here's an example: A bunch of limpers and you raise with AA in LP (suits don't matter). Everyone calls. Flop is a dry board say something like 3 6 9. A nit bets 2/3 pot into you. Can we honestly say, with that board, "yup I got this guy beat and feel confident stacking off?" I'm not so sure. This has set written all over it does it not? Maybe I'm just running bad, but does anyone slow down against limp callers who wake up on dry boards? Maybe this is too situational and I know my example isn't a great one either. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] |
#2
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Re: Maybe leak, maybe not.
To really give a good answer we would need stack sizes, pot size, the number of limpers, and the specific action.
However, this sort of question comes up frequently here. I would suggest posting a hand or two and keeping your eyes open in the next say...hmmm..... hour or so for this question to come up again. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] To answer your original question: GENERALLY speaking, when a nit bets on a dry flop you have to ask yourself what he is doing this with. Then compare his range to the size of pot and the effective stacks. In a perfect world you will have a read on him and know what to do. |
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Re: Maybe leak, maybe not.
It also depends on his read on YOU. Have you been raising like a maniac? He may just be making a move on you. Detecting sets is a PITA-which is why they are such great hands.
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Re: Maybe leak, maybe not.
threads and nitty have good points. To reassure you though, in exact terms: YES, sometimes you have to slow down in these situations. Limp and call from a nit is CLASSIC set mining. If you are getting more action then you should, it is quite likely b/c he has a set. You have to be able to lay down AA sometimes.
Like mentioned before though, stack sizes and reads will help determine whether each instance is a fold,call,raise,etc. A quick note on his read of you. I have made the mistake of too much 3rd level thinking, giving too much credit to my opponent's perceptiveness as it pertains to me. A real nit does not usually have the balls to start playing back hard, except perhaps against the biggest maniacs. Therefore, don't get too caught up in thinking b/c you raised the last few hands he thinks you are bluffing; most people never get too far past the strength of their own hand. |
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Re: Maybe leak, maybe not.
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most people never get too far past the strength of their own hand. [/ QUOTE ] This is something I constantly have to remind myself at the table. Almost none of the players are thinking about what range of hands you could have, they're always just looking at their own cards in relation to the board, and deciding if they have a strong hand. |
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Re: Maybe leak, maybe not.
nits fold a lot
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#7
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Re: Maybe leak, maybe not.
Oh and as for your example, a true nit is never getting my stack on a board like that. Raising/calling/folding on the flop all depend on other factors though.
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Re: Maybe leak, maybe not.
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nits fold a lot [/ QUOTE ] Wisdom from above!?! Sounds like you may be raising too little preflop if you are getting several callers. Are you raising 4xBB + 1BB for every limper ahead of you? |
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Re: Maybe leak, maybe not.
When a nit bets into a big field on a dry flop, I want more than 1 pair before I commit my stack.
Vs. some I like to think I can find a fold. Vs most, I raise and fold to any further action. |
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