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Old 06-26-2007, 01:34 PM
kekedarius kekedarius is offline
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Default god damnit im going all in

Seat 2: xxx (447.75 in chips)
Seat 3: xxx (99.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero (196.00 in chips)
Seat 6: xxx (260.15 in chips)
Seat 8: xxx (201.40 in chips)
Seat 9: Villain (198.00 in chips)
xxx: posts small blind $1
Villain: posts big blind $2
Dealt to Hero [ T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
xxx: folds
xxx: folds
Hero: raises to $7
xxx: folds
xxx: folds
Villain: calls
*** FLOP *** [ 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ] ~$14
Villain: checks
Hero: bets $11
Villain: raises to $22
Hero: calls
*** TURN *** [ 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ] ~$56
lilole: bets $56.05
Hero: is all in

Villain is LAG around 40/25/4, tries to out play the table in every hand. I just got a new computer, so my notes on him went out the window, but his aggression often has little rhyme or reason other than he hopes you'll fold. Shoving and folding are about equal EV here, right?
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Old 06-27-2007, 05:46 AM
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Default Re: god damnit im going all in

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Old 06-27-2007, 05:50 AM
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Default Re: god damnit im going all in

Have you seen him min c/r before? Is he likely to be calling any Kx hands out of the blinds?
Given the read you provided I like, an argument can be made for flat calling and letting him bluff of his stack but I'd prefer this with JJ/QQ
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Old 06-27-2007, 05:50 AM
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Default Re: god damnit im going all in

what do you think your fold equity is on the turn play?

im thinking smooth calling the turn to get him to bluff off the rest of his stack on the river may work better? especially if he is doing this with a 9 and has 2-5 outs
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Old 06-27-2007, 06:00 AM
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Default Re: god damnit im going all in

Looks good. You have the best hand a lot of the time here, so an argument can be made for just calling the turn and let him bluff the river , but I dont mind the turn push.
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Old 06-27-2007, 06:01 AM
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Default Re: god damnit im going all in

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what do you think your fold equity is on the turn play?

im thinking smooth calling the turn to get him to bluff off the rest of his stack on the river may work better? especially if he is doing this with a 9 and has 2-5 outs

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The reason I shoved is because he either has 99/Kx and is going to stack me, or he has some air-ish hand like 66/AJ and is only going to put more money in if he improves. The turn is either fold or shove I think.

FWIW even though he's maniacal, he is a winning player and won't be shoving the river with ace high.
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Old 06-27-2007, 06:32 AM
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Default Re: god damnit im going all in

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what do you think your fold equity is on the turn play?

im thinking smooth calling the turn to get him to bluff off the rest of his stack on the river may work better? especially if he is doing this with a 9 and has 2-5 outs

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The reason I shoved is because he either has 99/Kx and is going to stack me, or he has some air-ish hand like 66/AJ and is only going to put more money in if he improves. The turn is either fold or shove I think.

FWIW even though he's maniacal, he is a winning player and won't be shoving the river with ace high.

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IF this is really true, then you can fold the river and he wont stack you. Personally if you are determined to get it all in, I say call turn, and call most rivers.
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Old 06-27-2007, 07:58 AM
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Default Re: god damnit im going all in

Calling the turn and folding the river probably would've been the best line now that you mention it. I thought it'd be too awkward a line to take at the time.
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