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Old 06-25-2007, 06:03 PM
HaiaN HaiaN is offline
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Default nl100 nutflush vs TaG

villain is a solid TaG, no specific history
The turn was a missed crai. effective stacks are 86BB. I did not repop preflop because I wanted to keep the limper in who is a total airhead.


dellik: Post SB $0.50
0HaiaN: Post BB $1.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 0HaiaN [Qs As]
jack76: Fold
GreenBlaze7: Call $1.00
Rennee: Raise $5.00 (BTN)
dellik: Fold
0HaiaN: Call $4.00 (BB)
GreenBlaze7: Fold
*** FLOP *** [3d 3s 4s]
0HaiaN: Check
Rennee: Bet $5.00
0HaiaN: Raise $14.00
Rennee: Call $9.00
*** TURN *** [9s]
0HaiaN: Check
Rennee: Check
*** RIVER *** [Kh]
0HaiaN: Bet $23.00
Rennee: Allin $68.05
0HaiaN: Call $45.05
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:15 PM
AE6 AE6 is offline
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Default Re: nl100 nutflush vs TaG

-c/r bigger on the flop

-lead the turn

-river is easy bet/call
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:20 PM
HaiaN HaiaN is offline
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Default Re: nl100 nutflush vs TaG

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-c/r bigger on the flop

-lead the turn

-river is easy bet/call

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c/r size is ok it does not change his range for calling/reraising at all IMO (maybe he'll 3betbluff me a little more often but that would be perfect for me obv.), even minraising could be taken into consideration.
If I lead the turn he will not call/raise unless he has an overpair with a spade in it or better. If he has a flush or a FH we'll get it in anyways.
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:31 PM
Mossberg Mossberg is offline
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Default Re: nl100 nutflush vs TaG

3bet preflop. I don't like your reasoning for just calling.

I like a bet/3bet on the flop vs some opponents if image is right. Against others I'm happy to just c/c here. I don't like a c/r much at all though. You aren't folding out many better hands, and you're going to end up in a bloated pot oop on a blank turn.
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: nl100 nutflush vs TaG

PF is a mistake imo. Keeping the limper in can hardly justify playing a potentially big pot oop w/o initiative. Plus: he might even elect to call your 3bet or fold to the raise anyway (as he did).
I don't mind the rest of the hand at all. I don't think a bigger c/r will accomplish much and if villain is the kind of player to 3bet paired flops with air it's a good thing to give him the idea he can punish you for making ridiculous c/r's.
Leading the turn wouldn't be too bad if villain is capable of exercising a stack-a-donk on a dangerous board against you - i.e. he shouldn't give your bets too much credit.
As played river is standard.
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:26 AM
$upermad4it $upermad4it is offline
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Default Re: nl100 nutflush vs TaG

anyone else like a flat call on a paired flop with 2 opponents?
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:33 AM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: nl100 nutflush vs TaG

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anyone else like a flat call on a paired flop with 2 opponents?

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Yeah this is fine. Vs most idiots you don't really have much FE except over hands you want to keep in - i.e. weaker flush draws, straight draws etc.

Pf is fine.
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:46 AM
FenixOnTilt FenixOnTilt is offline
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Default Re: nl100 nutflush vs TaG

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anyone else like a flat call on a paired flop with 2 opponents?

[/ QUOTE ]there is only one?!

sry if its only hypothetical [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:07 AM
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Default Re: nl100 nutflush vs TaG

I would c/r the flop everytime.
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