FU river - Page 2

Oink · #11 06-26-2007, 06:17 AM

BTW. I shouldnt have said "I doubt its +EV" but "I am not sure its +EV"

Would you ever fold in this spot?

TheWunderkind · #12 06-26-2007, 06:19 AM

not vs unknown, vs a good player yes since he cannot expect me to fold AA KK in this big Pot wich he should realize are the only Hands i can have here.

zalazane · #13 06-26-2007, 06:46 AM

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Would you ever fold in this spot?

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Paging Ed Miller..

Isn't this like really bad? When pot is this huge laying 17:1 odds you just dont fold. One bet is like a check, insignificant. Doesn't really matter much if the villain is good or not IMO.

TheWunderkind · #14 06-26-2007, 06:52 AM

If youre always behind when villain bets you loose 1 BB no matter if the Pot is 5 10 or 15 BB. Looking at it in a vacoum yes it looks bad but but in rality Pot odds are sometime overrated> meaning villain would/should never bluff a worse hand if hes good. I dunno if i could fold but iam certainly sure that i always loose 1 BB if i call.

What range do you put CO on after his Turn call?

zalazane · #15 06-26-2007, 07:00 AM

6% chance to win is enough. I don't really think about hand ranges at this point, misclick equity combined with retard equity is enough [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

If you think about it from villain's point of view, if he has a crap hand isn't it worth to try to bluff, even for that tiny 6% FE?

TheWunderkind · #16 06-26-2007, 07:04 AM

u just see ur 6% or 17:1 and stop thinking, not that theres something wrong with that

Oink · #17 06-26-2007, 07:11 AM

Am I bad for bluffing 88-TT on the river in villains spot? I would do that against quite a few players.

TheWunderkind · #18 06-26-2007, 07:22 AM

if medium pps are in villains range i would bluff too

Im just pointing out that no one would fold AA KK and therefore a good player cant expect to be succesfull with a bluff, but maybe iam overthinking the situation

emKay · #19 06-26-2007, 07:53 AM

c/c

vmacosta · #20 06-26-2007, 09:35 AM

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Am I bad for bluffing 88-TT on the river in villains spot? I would do that against quite a few players.

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I'll bluff hands that can't beat AK but don't bother with 88-TT cuz anything better is showing down in my limited experience (lets be honest this situation doesn't come up all that often).