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Old 06-25-2007, 11:37 PM
lazeeesunday lazeeesunday is offline
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Default NL50 - Light 3 bet flops flush draw...

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($51.45)
Hero ($74.20)
BB ($89.15)
UTG ($51.80)
MP ($78.15)
CO ($49.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $4.75.

Flop: ($13.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, UTG calls $9.

Turn: ($31.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $31.5</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $63.25


Heeeeeeeeeelp! Do I second barrell here on an A turn? If not then its definately a fold to that bet right?
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Old 06-25-2007, 11:45 PM
ajml ajml is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - Light 3 bet flops flush draw...

The whole hand kind of depends on the villain. I don't like to 3-bet TAGs that raise UTG because their opening range is pretty small and most of it won't fold to a 3-bet with position the rest of the hand, especially if they know you 3-bet beyond AA, KK, AK. With that being said I think I would attempt to bet the turn but as somewhat a blocking bet thats small enough to save you a couple bucks vs. checking and letting him bet. Hopefully it also looks like you are trying to get paid off, maybe $20? I don't know I'll be interested in seeing others thoughts, this is a good example of a 3 bet gone bad, I think your line is probably optimal here.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:03 AM
infinite_loop infinite_loop is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - Light 3 bet flops flush draw...

Considering the original raiser is UTG, I probably don't like this 3-bet in the first place. The problem with a draw here is you don't have a lot of FE against his probable range, and then the turn probably means he's folding almost never. Check/fold and pick better spots pre-flop.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Light 3 bet flops flush draw...

Preflop threebet is bleh. I almost never threebet UTG raisers
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Old 06-26-2007, 04:47 AM
Peter Harris Peter Harris is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - Light 3 bet flops flush draw...

that 3b is teh suck, with or without reads.
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Old 06-26-2007, 05:07 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Light 3 bet flops flush draw...

3bet no goot because you are out of position. I may 3bet this on the button from time to time. I fold this preflop in the SB, i'll vary between calls and raises when in position.

As played meh the cbet... dont really like it. Considering that he raised and overcalled UTG preflop, the board has hit a lot of his range and your FE is likely bad.
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