50NL: 2 hands, turned trips, facing river overbet

Tinga · #1 06-25-2007, 11:52 PM

Hand 1:

I have been at this table for maybe 2 orbits. No reads on villain, no stats, no history.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

UTG ($36.30)
MP ($56)
Button ($55.40)
SB ($56.55)
Hero ($53.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $1.5, 2 folds, SB calls $1.25, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($4.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: ($4.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $2.5, Hero raises to $7.5, UTG folds, SB calls $5.

River: ($19.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $47.55 (All-In), Hero ??

Thoughts:

PF, anyone like a squeeze here? Same rules apply to UTG as Villain in regards to no history. Sometimes I will do this if I think I can take it down there, but I don't like doing this OOP too often unless I can get them to fold pre or on the flop. I elected to call here, to see how it would play out post flop, and because of this history with these players.

This smells like KJ or a rivered flush to me. He should know that I have at least the J here with my (weak) turn raise, which would explain an overbet and him thinking I'll auto call this. If I was playing it like this, and put me on the J, I would be overbetting the river. Could he do this with a weak jack?

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Hand 2:

I have been at this table for 10 mins or so. Villain is 28/4 over 100 hands I have on him through PT.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter --- Converter F'd up the hand due to player name at table, I replaced as necessary.

MP ($51.45)
CO ($51.85)
Button ($102.30)
SB ($30.45)
Hero ($50)
UTG ($27.95)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, MP (minraises) to $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, SB completes, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, MP calls $3, Button raises to $9, Hero calls $6, MP folds.

Turn: ($22) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $42 (putting Hero all-in), Hero ??

Can anyone talk me into a call here? Only viable hands I can see doing this would be 22 or Kx. I'd hope he'd raise JJ or KK PF, but from my holdings I can't put him on KK.