2/4 NL vs 1/2 NL

[d2themfi]

When i played 1-2, playign fairly straightforward is going to win a steady profit. i have recently been playign 2-4 on FTP, where u are constantly getting 3 betted by people with position on you and are constantly getting floated especially in sb vs bb battles. All Ive done to combat this is play tighter in ep and looser (and much more aggressive in 3 betting) in LP, and then play much trickier postflop when i feel Im being floated. I mean lots of times its pretty obvious when ur being floated. So you can do lots of tricky things like calling a raise postflop of ur continuation bet and then leading the turn, or check raising the turn or checkraising the flop instead of continuation betting. And Im talking about doing this with air, and the goods. its kinda a feel thing, but something that happens with experience. Maybe try to play less tables if you play a lot, and focus more on the plays ur making. Then once you get comfortable with how the game is veing played, and have put in thousands of hands at a good winning rate, then add some tables. A lot of moving up levels is just adjusting to player tendencies, and at 2-4 the game is significalntly more aggressive especially pre flop and aldso much trickier postflop. Also make sure you datamine for a while b4 you move up again to get a good feel for player tendencies

[RiverHebrew2]

ur stats are ok vs 2/4... but I'd say 2/4 is when a lot of players should be adjusting their game. People need to be a LOT more aggro (AF of around 4), and rele need to develop adapting to how tight or loose a table is, much more than a 1/2 or .50/1 game IMO. 2/4 is very tough to beat, just if I were you I would take a daily shot, and if you lose two buyins, leave and come back the next day. I would recommend, due to how aggressive the 2/4 game is, the swings are so massive $12k+ roll is definitely best. U will have to get used to how loose people are in and out of position, and their reraising/calling reraise ranges are significantly wider than before, and people will play back at you and give you no respect. Don't get fancy or try to outplay people too much, and follow the other directions, and u'll do fine.

[homeboy604]

get off absolute asap. games started out amazing, and have declined so badly within the last 2 months.

too many good regulars to make it worth while.

[tempest7178]

oh yes, expect massive swings too. 4k swings at 2/4 are not uncommon.

[berserk]

lol @ trying to change your style in order to reach certain numbers... there is no magic AF of 4, many good players are anywhere from 2.5-5

There are also certainly winners that play your somewhat passive style preflop, but they are rarer than winners playing a bit more of an aggressive preflop game.

Also, i just looked at the first few of the hands you posted and they are all coolers/unavoidable/running bad.

[DaCooler]

I dont know what to do then, because seriously this has been 15-25K hands in 3 seperate instances of running like this.. I lost 4K today at 2/4 which was my single biggest loss in a day and im kind of realing from it, i had 19k on line so it wasnt like it destroyed me but still kicked me pretty hard. What im really thinking is that there are enough 1/2 NL games on AP to make it profitable but after than there are usually only 2-6 2/4 NL games going on during the day full of regulars...

Maybe i should put some $ on FT or something if i want to try 2/4

[tempest7178]

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Also, i just looked at the first few of the hands you posted and they are all coolers/unavoidable/running bad.

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[homeboy604]

dacooler, i have you down playing 24/13/1.5 which too loose/passive. tighten up your game.
i remember you playing pretty well regardless.

what do all the AP regulars think of cascade whitey's game?
i cant comprehend how he is a winning player with his numbers (22/6/.8) but he manages to be one of the biggest winners.
guess hes just a very good hand reader.

what did you guys think of my game? im done on ap, so feel free to flame.
im a 5ptbb/100 winner over 70 000 hands on ap between 1/2 and 3/6.

[tempest7178]

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get off absolute asap. games started out amazing, and have declined so badly within the last 2 months.

too many good regulars to make it worth while.

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Still very possible to win and win big, but I too have noticed a large influx of "regulars."

[DaCooler]

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dacooler, i have you down playing 24/13/1.5 which too loose/passive. tighten up your game.
i remember you playing pretty well regardless.

what do all the AP regulars think of cascade whitey's game?
i cant comprehend how he is a winning player with his numbers (22/6/.8) but he manages to be one of the biggest winners.
guess hes just a very good hand reader.

what did you guys think of my game? im done on ap, so feel free to flame.
im a 5ptbb/100 winner over 70 000 hands on ap between 1/2 and 3/6.

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I have wondered the very same thing about him, hard to figure out... but he wins, i remember playing against him alot at 1/2, he never really scared me but now he seems to be doing well multiabling higher.

what was your screename? where are you now?? how is it?

What do you think of the idea of putting say 4k on FT and play strictly 2/4 NL there and keep playing 1/2 on AP as im winning 8 ptbb/100.