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#1
06-24-2007, 06:52 PM
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Thin value shove?
Villain is can be LAG in position but seems overall weak postflop unless he has a big hand. I've been playing TAG but being much more aggressive in position firing a lot of barrels when I do see a turn.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com BB ($213.20) UTG ($99.80) Hero ($100) CO ($59.90) Button ($207.65) SB ($100.50) Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $3. Flop: ($8.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, BB calls $6. Turn: ($20.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, BB calls $15. River: ($50.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, Hero... I have about $75 left. This seems like a pretty straight-forward value bet, but does he call worse if I shove for 1.5x pot? 
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#4
06-24-2007, 06:57 PM
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Re: Thin value shove?
I'm pretty sure on the river he doesn't have a K, he might have 55 here, but he'll usually play his big hands fast. I've NEVER seen him slowplay in about 500-600 hands I have on him, both against aggressive players and fish.
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#5
06-24-2007, 07:01 PM
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Re: Thin value shove?
ummmm, the turn is a WA/WB situation, betting it i think is a big mistake. u kinda have to check down the river now because its very doubtful u get a call from any weaker hands unless this guy has seen you triple barrel w/ air before, because basically if he doesnt have a K he only has a bluff catcher.
had you c/b the turn, you coulda valued the river and gotten calls from weaker hands. i think cuz you built the pot so big on the turn if you bet the river, he has to give u credit for a K if he doesnt have one himself.
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#6
06-24-2007, 07:10 PM
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Re: Thin value shove?
I dont like a river bet; maybe its good to value bet here at higher stakes, but at .5/1 hes mucking his 88/66 to big bet always, finally giving you credit for better hand, unless you have history. Something you could do is bet small maybe 1/3 pot on river as long as you're not worried abuot him ever getting tricky with river c/r as bluff.
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#7
06-24-2007, 07:15 PM
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Re: Thin value shove?
If he has 5x or a lowish pocket pair I doubt he'll call. I wouldn't underestimate his ability to slowplay a big K, or given that he's a passive player he may even be pot controlling with K weak kicker. So I like a check. If I had to bet the river though I would just go like 20-25 and try and get a crying call out of a weak made hand. Fold to a raise obviously.
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