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Old 06-24-2007, 12:18 AM
The Velour Fog The Velour Fog is offline
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Default NL400 QQ odd preflop situation

SB bought in short (80$) didnt do anything for a while, got it in pre with AK and doubled up. he has been doing this preflop shove a fair number of times now. obviously i would like to call here since i'd guess his range is something like 1010+ AQ+.
thing is UTG is a rock playing 13/8 or something like that ( from memory ) and probably never opens without a fair hand here.
so my plan is calling SB and folding if UTG shoves? what if UTG just comes along, am i shutting down instantly then? help

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO ($348.50)
Button ($335.10)
SB ($162.60)
Hero ($1320.36)
UTG ($484)
MP ($486.52)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $16, SB calls $160.60 (All-In)
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Old 06-24-2007, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: NL400 QQ odd preflop situation

insta

call
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Old 06-24-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: NL400 QQ odd preflop situation

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call

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gee, thanks. ok assume hero calls and UTG shoves ( range KK+, being generous QQ+ ) what do i do. im bad at teh mathematics
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Old 06-24-2007, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: NL400 QQ odd preflop situation

or shove after him. Either way I don't think UTG calls.
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Old 06-24-2007, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: NL400 QQ odd preflop situation

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or shove after him. Either way I don't think UTG calls.

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gee, thanks. ok assume hero calls and UTG shoves ( range KK+, being generous QQ+ ) what do i do. im bad at teh mathematics

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Old 06-24-2007, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: NL400 QQ odd preflop situation

call, if UTG shoves over probably fold
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Old 06-24-2007, 12:39 AM
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fold. 2 to 1
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Old 06-24-2007, 12:41 AM
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if you call that bet, i doubt UTG will shove without KK or AA
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Old 06-24-2007, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: NL400 QQ odd preflop situation

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.038% 53.78% 01.26% 270740232 6329616.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 44.962% 43.70% 01.26% 220017912 6329616.00 { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }

Considering UTG is going to end up pushing you out of the pot at least 10% of the time, fold. Unless donkey's range is quite a bit wider.
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Old 06-24-2007, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: NL400 QQ odd preflop situation

yeah i call and shut down to further action from UTG and feel pretty good about it.
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