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turn spot - call or raise?
villain is unknown.
my image is tag if that's been noticed. is this sort of wa/wb, or standard calldown, or standard raise? if it's a raise is it a value raise and bet most rivers or is it a free showdown raise? Poker Stars Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $1/$2 6 players Converter Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises</font>, 2 folds, BB calls. Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, hero calls. Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.25BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, hero ? thanks guys |
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Re: turn spot - call or raise?
I'd raise, as you got checkraised on the flop by a whole lot of draws that'll keep on paying for cards.
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Re: turn spot - call or raise?
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I'd raise, for valueee [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: turn spot - call or raise?
isnt that what i said?
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Re: turn spot - call or raise?
This isn't wa/wb, a draw for villain is a likely holding.
It's a value raise. People are more likely to give up with a busted draw on the river when you call that turn card, so we want to charge draws those times. Also worse pairs will often check/call the river. They'll usually calldown from the turn raise so we make 1 more bet in that case unless they fold the turn, which rarely happens. |
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Re: turn spot - call or raise?
It should never be a free SD raise for several reasons. The two most important being that you cant fold to a 3-bet and you are not folding a better hand.
Easy peasy value raise and value bet the river. |
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Re: turn spot - call or raise?
grunching
If he is unknown he probably hasn't noticed you either? I'd call down against unknown player. If you had reads he was a TAG/good player/aggro retard who could very well be doing this with draws you could raise turn for value amiright? edit: Read other responses, wow. Maybe it's because I play in very L/P games I feel that the average player doesn't do this with draws. So what do we do if he 3bets turn? Calldown every time (for reads)? Aren't we toast then? |
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Re: turn spot - call or raise?
I tend to raise on this card with a lot of different hands, and bet the river. Including your current hand here helps to balance out all the horrible -EV of all those other crap hands that I raised with.
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