Weaktight goes crazy, I fold top pair.

[kaby]

Villain is 27/5/0.6 over 90 hands. No reads which means I haven't seen him doing anything worth noting. Other villains are looseygosey; UTG is 79/6/1.

Prima Poker skin
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.5SB, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: 7.25BB

Yes/no/thoughts?

[danzasmack]

I would basically never 3-bet this flop

[TheHip41]

once I get c/r on the flop, I'm taking one of two lines vs. this opponent.

calling down from the check raise ui

or, raising the turn, checking the river

or calling the turn, raise folding the river.

3betting the flop is really pointless.

See, the thing is, when this guy c/r the flop, your hand sucks. You don't have two pair, you don't have a set, all you have is a dick ace, and the other guy probably has a better ace, or he has a nice draw. I wouldn't be worried about getting value from your hand when you aren't winning that much.

[Absolution]

Why would you 3-bet that flop against this guy? There is a reason why it's good to have position. I would have just called, hoping I could counterfeit T7, but would probably end up calling down, even against this guy. As played the turn fold is fine. I generally wouldn't raise this pre-flop here, but with that guy in the blinds I like it.

[Absolution]

[ QUOTE ]
once I get c/r on the flop, I'm taking one of two lines vs. this opponent.

calling down from the check raise ui

or, raising the turn, checking the river

or calling the turn, raise folding the river.

3betting the flop is really pointless.

See, the thing is, when this guy c/r the flop, your hand sucks. You don't have two pair, you don't have a set, all you have is a dick ace, and the other guy probably has a better ace, or he has a nice draw. I wouldn't be worried about getting value from your hand when you aren't winning that much.

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I don't think raising this hand anywhere is a good idea so I would take option number 1.

[13_Xerxes]

Is call flop/fold turn unimproved too tight weak vs this guy ?

[sebastien]

i calldown all street.
What about river 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
call /raise??

[freewheeler]

Everyone says it's a horrible 3bet on flop, but it seems to me it saved us 1 big bet. You have to fold when a guy with his stats caps flop and leads turn. That said, I'm sure if I were playing it I would have done what most others seem to like, which is to go into call down mode after flop c/r. And no, I do not like a river raise on 6d (or any other card for that matter).

[TheHip41]

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Everyone says it's a horrible 3bet on flop, but it seems to me it saved us 1 big bet. You have to fold when a guy with his stats caps flop and leads turn. That said, I'm sure if I were playing it I would have done what most others seem to like, which is to go into call down mode after flop c/r. And no, I do not like a river raise on 6d (or any other card for that matter).

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he can still have KdQd on the turn. So no, I don't like it. He can also have bottom pair plus flush draw on the turn.

He can also have bottom two which we have a lot of outs against.

Folding ui on the turn is bad without a really good read.

Also, metagame, if you fold here everytime, you will get run over in 6max games online.

[sethypooh21]

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Is call flop/fold turn unimproved too tight weak vs this guy ?

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It's not terrible, but I think calling the turn, and re-evaluating on the river is probably better. This guy is so passive, that you're not wrong for considering folding turn UI.