AJo after 6 limpers

[Niediam]

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I say call because AJO is a good drawing hand. There's too much on the flop that you could like and probably knock out some on the flop if it's rainbow containing A or J.

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AJo is a very bad drawing hand. It can't make flushes (using both hole cards) and can only make a straight with KQT.

[PokrLikeItsProse]

I would guess that there isn't a huge difference between calling or raising (and they're probably both +EV) but that raising will increase your variance a ton (especially if you can't lay down top pair) because you're going to bloat the pot and force yourself to chase or call down more often when you don't have the best hand. You're also going to have less opportunities to charge the field two bets post-flop.

You have to consider how your opponents play here. Let's say the flop comes J72 with two hearts. Let's say that some of your opponents will bet any jack from any position in a limped pot because of the possible flush draw, but against a pre-flop raiser, they might check and call, fearing an overpair more than they fear getting drawn out by a flush. Which scenario do you prefer to be in with AJo?

[JooWish622]

incorrect sir.

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not raising with AJo after 6! limpers? why not? well, how does AJo usually drag a pot? top pair. it's a top pair hand. top pair usually requires betting and raising in earnest on the early streets, fighting to keep the draws from overcoming it while offering implied odds to these same hands when they hit on the big streets. when we raise PF with a hand like AJo or KQo on the button with this many limpers, we lose more than we gain in the longrun. why? because in poker you make money from your opponents' mistakes. when you raise preflop, you eliminate many of the mistakes that your opponents' will make postflop because you have inflated the pot to the point that gutshots, bottom pair, etc. are correct to call to the river.


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How do you know that's true? One could also argue that flopping top pair after your PF raise will reward you with the extra dead money the limpers contributed, more than offsetting your negative implied odds. I could understand not raising if you're against multiple players who will not raise big aces but not in this case.

If you would not raise AJo, would you also not raise AQo?

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[KitCloudkicker]

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incorrect sir.[ QUOTE ]


explanation?

[Christian_Peters]

LOL at the 13 who say 'fold'

[KitCloudkicker]

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LOL at the 13 who say 'fold'

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many multi-tabling nits in the old party poker days only played AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK, and AQs and made a few bucks here and there.

[taentoy]

I will limp here to limit the pot size. The preflop edge with AJo with so many opponents is small and I rather rely on postflop skill to make money out of it.
By not raising it is easier to protect your hand postflop in case you hit.

[redCashion]

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polltard. i'm ashamed i even voted.

this raise is so standard it hurts my head.

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[John49]

I usually play 6 man ring. But for a full table, I would limp w/ this.

I think that there is a chance someone might have AQ or AK and limped before you, though doubtful. So, that's also part of the reason I don't like the hand. If you hit your Ace, you might not get any customers.

Cmon, TQK rainbow flop! Anything else, and I fold even if all checks to me.

[KitCloudkicker]

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I usually play 6 man ring. But for a full table, I would limp w/ this.

I think that there is a chance someone might have AQ or AK and limped before you, though doubtful. So, that's also part of the reason I don't like the hand. If you hit your Ace, you might not get any customers.

Cmon, TQK rainbow flop! Anything else, and I fold even if all checks to me.

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you fold a flop of Jxx? JJx? AJJ? AJx? lol