$33 Stars: JJ min-raised preflop

Vecernicek · #1 06-22-2007, 03:07 AM

What do we think of the flat-call preflop? The probe-bet on the flop? No reads on the villain.

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CO (t1820)
Button (t1720)
SB (t1130)
BB (t3170)
Hero (t4180)
MP (t1480)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t320, 1 fold, CO raises to t540, 3 folds, Hero calls t220.

Flop: (t1230) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Hero bets t665, CO raises to t1280 (All-In), Hero folds.

EDITED to include flop action, and the lack of reads.

greggg230 · #2 06-22-2007, 03:10 AM

At this point in the tournament, I don't mind getting it all in pre-flop, especially given the stack-sizes. If he was a little deeper, you could get away from it on the flop if you bet and he RR, but you're going to be pot-committed after leading here.

mortimo · #3 06-22-2007, 03:24 AM

Any reads?
t275 preflop..normally a push after the re-raise
Push flop

I fold against a reg

KPL · #4 06-22-2007, 05:12 AM

I usually get it in preflop against an unknown. As played, you have to call here after donkbetting the flop.

Vecernicek · #5 06-22-2007, 10:29 AM

So, as played PF are we check/folding this flop?

MikeMcQ1 · #6 06-22-2007, 10:55 AM

I hate not having a read here. My image will also determine my PF action.
t275 is my standard. I could fold to the re-raise vs an ABC regular, and I could shove vs almost anyone else, especially if I've been active.

As played, you've given yourself too good of a price to fold the flop and you're still in decent shape when you lose. If he shows you an over pair, it's a fold obv, but there's too much of a chance he has AK, AQ, JJ, heck, who knows what else.

I would rather c/r or c/c the flop than c/f.

DoctorSlapnut · #7 06-22-2007, 10:57 AM

How can you fold that flop with that, u were getting 4-1 to call

Pudge714 · #8 06-22-2007, 11:05 AM

Raise 250 preflop.
Shove once it gets back to you.
Never ever bet/fold this flop.
Check shove>>>>>>>> bet call>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> bet/fold.

FlyingCarpet · #9 06-22-2007, 11:29 AM

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Raise 250 preflop.
Shove once it gets back to you.
Never ever bet/fold this flop.
Check shove>>>>>>>> bet call>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> bet/fold.

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